Host a website anonymously at Local PC from Home.

[EdIII]

I Have a powerful laptop at home that I can use to host a Website using Bitnami.

It should be anonymous and secure.
I would rather not use other people's hosting services as you usually do not get anything good for a little money. While I can't set up a VPS server.

- How anonymous do you get if you host a website and use ExpressVpN.

- Is there anything more you can do to remain as anonymous as possible?

- Feel free to send links - Let's discuss how we can hide in the best possible way.

 

[LilMosey]

What is your internet speed and Electricity cost?

 

[kinglion]

How do you handle A Records?

 

[Nut-Nights]

Op you will get caught easily, this is not a way to host an anon site.

 

[Deleted member 658642]

How do you handle A Records?

I’m not sure how the OP plans on getting away with using ExpressVPN. And what privacy lol..the domain has to point to the IP regardless.

@OP, you’d be better of getting WhoIs protection with a standard registrar.

 

[EdIII]

What is your internet speed and Electricity cost?

Internet speed 500/500Mbit and electricity cost is very low, i don't care about the electricity cost.

 

[EdIII]

How do you handle A Records?

What are Records? Records of what?

 

[EdIII]

Op you will get caught easily, this is not a way to host an anon site.

How come?

How to host a anon website then do you have any guides?

 

[Universe0]

If you care about anonymity then you should forget this plan.

 

[EdIII]

I’m not sure how the OP plans on getting away with using ExpressVPN. And what privacy lol..the domain has to point to the IP regardless.

@OP, you’d be better of getting WhoIs protection with a standard registrar.

I already have WhoIs protection of my domain name, and i bought it with Bitcoin and didn't gave my real name.
As i can tell the Domain is pretty safe right now, but the hosting is still a issue.

Using ExpressVPN to hide my IP - I don't know if that will be enough.
Using Ubuntu for better security.
And what more to do to stay anon when hosting?

Im not saying im doing it 100% right, im asking for help.

 

[Deleted member 657006]

I have tried this even with 500mbps up and down lines didn't work.

the bandwidth was to low.

each time my website got traffic the website just flaked out on requests.

I no my internet provider was sick of me using their line lol.

anyway good luck

I ended up with using a VPS in the end.

ps.

anonymous no such thing while hanging off your internet provider...

even if you set up a DNS server to use a private IP, the internet service provider will still grass you up, if asked from authorities who you are.

anonymous only on 3rd world computers/servers, the computer needs to be physically in that country to be fully anonymous.

if it was as easy as you think where all be doing it think about it.

you can only rent a server /host / VPS to be "real "anonymous in a 3rd world country.


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what you have set up or explained most designers use to test their client websites before passing it on. (( just so you know))

but

there a way into your setup via open ports from your service provider be warned, they own the line and router be careful.

best to learn apache server to block them.

apache server is a server application that let us use online features to use programming languages to get online, it built with many online servers internally.

 

[shog]

How anonymous do you need? If super high, you need a Tor hidden service - aka Onion site. This is actually pretty easy and then no problem with NAT/DNS A records, etc. But your visitors will need a Tor Browser or similar to get to you and then no SEO is possible.

If you want to run locally and have a solid internet connection, do you have a routable IP from your ISP? If yes, great - open a port forward on your router for port 80 and 443 and point to your internal laptop IP address (make it static) and set your DNS up.

If you don't have and or can't get a routable IP from your ISP, there's still two other ways:

1) VPNs can work if you find one that will forward ports port 80 and 443 to you. This is slow and you'll have problems with your VPN randomly dropping. It's something you'll have to play with to make stable.

2) Buy a super cheap VPS for a few dollars that has a routable IP. Then set up an SSH reverse tunnel from your laptop using the -g "gateway" switch. I've done this a lot and while it's still slower than doing it right, it definitely works in a pinch to save cash for a project:

Edit your sshd_config on the VPS to enable GatewayPorts (or maybe it's called GatewayRouting, can't remember off the top of my head), restart the sshd service

From your laptop: ssh -g -R 80:0.0.0.0:80 -R 443:0.0.0.0:443 username@vpsip

Use your ssh command above with "autossh" in front to keep it alive, and you should be good to go.

*Edit to add, that if you use your own ISP's IP address, this is not anonymous at all. The VPN idea is only as anonymous/secure as the VPN provider itself, and the VPS/ ssh option only as anonymous as the VPS hosting company would keep you. The best anonymity in my list is Tor.

 

[EdIII]

I have tried this even with 500mbps up and down lines didn't work.

the bandwidth was to low.

each time my website got traffic the website just flaked out on requests.

I no my internet provider was sick of me using their line lol.

anyway good luck

I ended up with using a VPS in the end.

ps.

anonymous no such thing while hanging off your internet provider...

even if you set up a DNS server to use a private IP, the internet service provider will still grass you up, if asked from authorities who you are.

anonymous only on 3rd world computers/servers, the computer needs to be physically in that country to be fully anonymous.

if it was as easy as you think where all be doing it think about it.

you can only rent a server /host / VPS to be "real "anonymous in a 3rd world country.


-----

what you have set up or explained most designers use to test their client websites before passing it on. (( just so you know))

but

there a way into your setup via open ports from your service provider be warned, they own the line and router be careful.

best to learn apache server to block them.

apache server is a server application that let us use online features to use programming languages to get online, it built with many online servers internally.

Isn't it there anything you could to to increase the bandwidth?

I don't mind using a VPS but i don't know how to set it up, and with setup i also mean the security.
I was hopping that there would be a technique so you could host it anon from local PC.

 

[EdIII]

How anonymous do you need? If super high, you need a Tor hidden service - aka Onion site. This is actually pretty easy and then no problem with NAT/DNS A records, etc. But your visitors will need a Tor Browser or similar to get to you and then no SEO is possible.

If you want to run locally and have a solid internet connection, do you have a routable IP from your ISP? If yes, great - open a port forward on your router for port 80 and 443 and point to your internal laptop IP address (make it static) and set your DNS up.

If you don't have and or can't get a routable IP from your ISP, there's still two other ways:

1) VPNs can work if you find one that will forward ports port 80 and 443 to you. This is slow and you'll have problems with your VPN randomly dropping. It's something you'll have to play with to make stable.

2) Buy a super cheap VPS for a few dollars that has a routable IP. Then set up an SSH reverse tunnel from your laptop using the -g "gateway" switch. I've done this a lot and while it's still slower than doing it right, it definitely works in a pinch to save cash for a project:

Edit your sshd_config on the VPS to enable GatewayPorts (or maybe it's called GatewayRouting, can't remember off the top of my head), restart the sshd service

From your laptop: ssh -g -R 80:0.0.0.0:80 -R 443:0.0.0.0:443 username@vpsip

Use your ssh command above with "autossh" in front to keep it alive, and you should be good to go.

*Edit to add, that if you use your own ISP's IP address, this is not anonymous at all. The VPN idea is only as anonymous/secure as the VPN provider itself, and the VPS/ ssh option only as anonymous as the VPS hosting company would keep you. The best anonymity in my list is Tor.

Not super hight, but pretty secured. Im going into a Online Pharmacy. So i don't know how high it needs to be.

I don't know if i have a routable IP but i can decide myself which ports i want to open, i never need to call the internet provider for anything.


How safe will this methood you provied be?
Thanks for your reply btw.

 

[LeadCloak]

You won't be anon with on home network as domain would be pointing to your IP (and then you'd need to buy a DNS service too). Also you can not host a site on VPN IPs as they're not static...

 

[Elvlin]

Find someone in third country to host it for you. It's better if it's a local service that accept btc

 

[shog]

You won't be anon with on home network as domain would be pointing to your IP (and then you'd need to buy a DNS service too). Also you can not host a site on VPN IPs as they're not static...

It can be done with a dynamic DNS service. But honestly, this isn't really for production so would never be recommended. The bigger problem is that most VPNs don't allow this, and the ones that do offer static/routable IPs are more expensive than a cheap VPS.

 

[LeadCloak]

It can be done with a dynamic DNS service. But honestly, this isn't really for production so would never be recommended. The bigger problem is that most VPNs don't allow this, and the ones that do offer static/routable IPs are more expensive than a cheap VPS.

Exactly, It doesn't worth the time and hassle to keep the site up... vultr VPSs cost as low as 3.5$ so don't know why OP wants to host a site on home network. If he wants anonymity - just get a server with btc and boom, no payment trails ( no help if NSA is behind him )

 

[shog]

Not super hight, but pretty secured. Im going into a Online Pharmacy. So i don't know how high it needs to be.

I don't know if i have a routable IP but i can decide myself which ports i want to open, i never need to call the internet provider for anything.


How safe will this methood you provied be?
Thanks for your reply btw.

Depending on your local laws, I can see why you might want to be anonymous. You should forget the laptop idea probably and plan to spring for a VPS somewhere. If you can follow guides you can set up a few dollars running a Apache or Nginx, and it'll handle a few simultaneous visitors without much trouble. As you expand you can upgrade to bigger hosts. If you're not sure how to configure and run a VPS, google for Woldpress/Woocommerce hosts that you can pay for in bitcoin. Connect to it over a VPN only, and you'll be marginally safer than nothing.

If you're planning on getting deep with all this... forget everything in this post and go for an onion hidden service only after getting some time learning security.

 

[Phalaenopsis]

How anonymous do you need? If super high, you need a Tor hidden service - aka Onion site. This is actually pretty easy and then no problem with NAT/DNS A records, etc. But your visitors will need a Tor Browser or similar to get to you and then no SEO is possible.

If you want to run locally and have a solid internet connection, do you have a routable IP from your ISP? If yes, great - open a port forward on your router for port 80 and 443 and point to your internal laptop IP address (make it static) and set your DNS up.

If you don't have and or can't get a routable IP from your ISP, there's still two other ways:

1) VPNs can work if you find one that will forward ports port 80 and 443 to you. This is slow and you'll have problems with your VPN randomly dropping. It's something you'll have to play with to make stable.

2) Buy a super cheap VPS for a few dollars that has a routable IP. Then set up an SSH reverse tunnel from your laptop using the -g "gateway" switch. I've done this a lot and while it's still slower than doing it right, it definitely works in a pinch to save cash for a project:

Edit your sshd_config on the VPS to enable GatewayPorts (or maybe it's called GatewayRouting, can't remember off the top of my head), restart the sshd service

From your laptop: ssh -g -R 80:0.0.0.0:80 -R 443:0.0.0.0:443 username@vpsip

Use your ssh command above with "autossh" in front to keep it alive, and you should be good to go.

*Edit to add, that if you use your own ISP's IP address, this is not anonymous at all. The VPN idea is only as anonymous/secure as the VPN provider itself, and the VPS/ ssh option only as anonymous as the VPS hosting company would keep you. The best anonymity in my list is Tor.

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