F/uF in 2020. Experimenting and some tips so far

[Ladis]

Hello BHW,

As most of you guys already know that F/uF is a really good method to start up your account. And after the recent updates a lot of guys is getting AB and even deactivated accounts. Limits are really just speculations for around 1 week I am testing with 2 accounts if I can bypass the limits and prevent action block as much as possible.I am able to follow 70 people every hour for around 15 cycle or more resulting in around 500 accounts daily (private accounts are not included) .

Here are some of my findings:

- Starting with a fresh account is almost asking for AB. Get aged account around 1 year as more than that is kind of useless and give the same result.

- Between every cycle try to browse your home. Look for a carousel and stay around 2 min flipping between the images and even zoom. Bots can't do that.

- It seems like Instagram has changed the limits again. Now even devices have a certain limit. Meaning if you did 100 actions in a phone with 5 account the next action on any of these accounts will get the last account AB.

So you can either get a new cheap phone or do what I did which is using an app which let you install 2 version of Instagram on your device. Each one will get its unique ID and therefore will be counted as a separate device.

-4g is better than wifi. But never faced a problem with either until now.

- I started this week implementing the above. And I am following 70 ppl every hour. I will try to push the limit to see how much I can follow.

- the conversion rate is around 1 to 6 but this depends on the niche. In my case I am getting around 60 followers daily.

I will be including some images in the end of the week and see how much growth did I got and if AB happens.

 

[PrestigeUK]

Following! Interesting stuff - great to see people experimenting with limits these days.

I am able to follow 70 people every hour for around 15 cycle or more resulting in around 500 accounts daily (private accounts are not included) .

Will be interesting to see how long you can sustain these sort of numbers before you encounter blocks.

- It seems like Instagram has changed the limits again. Now even devices have a certain limit. Meaning if you did 100 actions in a phone with 5 account the next action on any of these accounts will get the last account AB.

So you can either get a new cheap phone or do what I did which is using an app which let you install 2 version of Instagram on your device. Each one will get its unique ID and therefore will be counted as a separate device.

How many accounts per device / Insta app are you running?

I will be including some images in the end of the week and see how much growth did I got and if AB happens.

Looking forward to it

 

[Ladis]

How many accounts per device / Insta app are you running?

I run 2 apps. one with 5 accounts that I circulate the action between them and another app with 1 account . I have a Xiaomi phone which have the feature built in the OS.
I noticed these changes as I have doing f/uF with these 2 accounts and I followed around 90 with one of them and started with the other one and got AB on the 2nd like. luckily it was that (light) action block which goes away by logging out.

I am glad you are interested. I believe there is many stuff that is hidden between the codes of the algorithm. I will continue experimenting here and share my results.

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here is one of the accounts.

I am following also private accounts which explains why its not showing here. approx. I am following 500-600 per day.

Aside from that I forgot to mention. Don't use third party apps that help you unfollow. these can easily lead to action block as soon as you log in . This was my mistake with an account I grew in the middle of December where I gained 1k in a matter of 3 days. instead just follow until you maxed out and start unfollowing manually. time-consuming yes but better than losing your account.

 

[Ladis]

So. I think I have overdid it today with one of the accounts ( he one that got a "light action block" before and I got AB for 3 days after I have followed around 700 on that day with 70-80 follower per cycle.
I will go more slow on the other account. probably 50 per cylce and no more than 300-400 per day.
The avrege gain is around 50 followers daily which is not bad.
( I posted some pics but it seemed it needs mod approval for it)

 

[martin80]

Newbie question, what is AB that OP mentioned in the post?

 

[Ladis]

Newbie question, what is AB that OP mentioned in the post?

AB =action block.

Sorry for not clarifying that

 

[Clint254]

500-600 a day? That means you will reach alleged 6000 monthly limit in 10 days, have you surpass that limit so far in this month alone?

 

[Sowik]

What's that feature that Xiaomi phones have that you are talking about? Just curious as I have 2 Xiaomi phones.

 

[Camp59]

- Starting with a fresh account is almost asking for AB. Get aged account around 1 year as more than that is kind of useless and give the same result.

- It seems like Instagram has changed the limits again. Now even devices have a certain limit. Meaning if you did 100 actions in a phone with 5 account the next action on any of these accounts will get the last account AB.

These are true and apply to me as well.

I started couple hundred accounts back in September. I use only 2 phones and have over 100 accounts in each phone.

Right now I have slowed down as this is too time consuming process and I was planning to grow the accounts for sale only.

My biggest accounts have just over 2000 followers only . By my estimations I should have over 10 k on each account but as said I have stopped this for now because of the action blocks and this requires tremendous amount of time.

Whatever you do, dont go over 100 accounts manually.. it's too much to handle.

I use only 4g and switch the plane mode on between each account change so that the ip changes but this does not help. Instagram has evolved way past this and they can detect this activity even if you use apps like I do that should give you new mobile profile each time.

I wanted to do a yearly journey but I will drop this idea I guess. Getting all hundreds of accounts manually to 10 k seems almost impossible. It requires to wake up early and follow all day long, then post images and other things. Maybe I will continue, we'll see.

The problem is not getting the accounts to 10 k each, but to weed out third world followers.

If i follow randomly and not looking the usernames, most cases i end up with Indian majority of followers and this is bad for business as these accounts are not worth much in the end.

So as you can see this is a very complicated process but i have not been deactivated even once. All my accounts are up and running well.

The accounts that have 2000 followers allow me to do 200 follows in one setting, but this requires me to leave more than 24 hours in between the next cycle so I usually just do 100 follows each day and the growth is slow because I also target first world usernames.

The idea was to create 250 accounts with minimum 10 k followers to sell then 150 USD per account within a year that should bring in roughly 37,500 USD but honestly, giving this a second thought as it's more complicated then it sounds and it's hard work all day long, on top of that nobody isn't going to buy the accounts from you instantly anyways.. you will spend the whole next year selling them (if you are lucky).

I wanted to have a side business that I manage 4 hours per day when I sit and watch movies or whatever but this is not feasible as you need to do this whole day and each day for 12 hours straight, even on weekends and holidays.

So anyone wants to start with this you better get amount of accounts that you actually are able to manage. Its definitely not a waste of time but its inhuman legwork and there are much better things to do. But I still plan to continue as setting up these hundreds of accounts with different bios and verifications requests was more complicated than f/UF - each my phone has probably 40 different browsers to log in to instagram.com to make email verifications so they couldn't connect all the accounts. Technical part is the biggest issue and you really need to remember what and how you have done.

 

[Ladis]

What's that feature that Xiaomi phones have that you are talking about? Just curious as I have 2 Xiaomi phones.

Its called Dual app, letting you have 2 copies of the same app with different app ID. quite usable as it let you run 10 accounts from your phone (instagram limit is 5) and in my case give you the ability to bypass the device action limit.

 

[Ladis]

So an update :

the action block on my 2nd account will be off tommorow. I had an old account which I used to go crazy and follow like 900 per day and got action blocked even deactivated for some time. I noticed after close observation is it got flagged as soon as I use a 3rd party app to unfollow. I gave it a 10 day rest and started following with a lower rate like 30 per hour and going. this is the day so far and no blocks. i will need to go a little bit longer to see if 10 days is enough to get an account (unflagged).

The first account running ok with a rate of 50 follows per hour and a max of 300 ish per day . as I mentioned above I decided to go slower after the 2nd account got the AB.

This is a speculation, but It seems like as soon as you account is AB one time, It will be flagged and the limits will be lower for a period of time. if this is correct that means if 10 days is enough you can go back to your previous rate of following

Here is an overview of the 1st account.

 

[Camp59]

Its called Dual app, letting you have 2 copies of the same app with different app ID. quite usable as it let you run 10 accounts from your phone (instagram limit is 5) and in my case give you the ability to bypass the device action limit.

You can get the same app from play store and have unlimited copies of instagram. You dont need a special phone for that.

 

[Ladis]

You can get the same app from play store and have unlimited copies of instagram. You dont need a special phone for that.

Yp I know. I have mentioned such apps in the original post.

 

[Mark Jacobs]

So an update :

the action block on my 2nd account will be off tommorow. I had an old account which I used to go crazy and follow like 900 per day and got action blocked even deactivated for some time. I noticed after close observation is it got flagged as soon as I use a 3rd party app to unfollow. I gave it a 10 day rest and started following with a lower rate like 30 per hour and going. this is the day so far and no blocks. i will need to go a little bit longer to see if 10 days is enough to get an account (unflagged).

The first account running ok with a rate of 50 follows per hour and a max of 300 ish per day . as I mentioned above I decided to go slower after the 2nd account got the AB.

This is a speculation, but It seems like as soon as you account is AB one time, It will be flagged and the limits will be lower for a period of time. if this is correct that means if 10 days is enough you can go back to your previous rate of following

Here is an overview of the 1st account.

What app are you using to pull up that info above??

 

[Ladis]

What app are you using to pull up that info above??

Ninjalytics. It's a website. Google it as I can't post links.

 

[DamonSalvatore]

- the conversion rate is around 1 to 6 but this depends on the niche. In my case I am getting around 60 followers daily.

So you are following 500 people and getting a follow back of 60 people?
Can you mention your niche ?

 

[Ladis]

So you are following 500 people and getting a follow back of 60 people?
Can you mention your niche ?

even more than 60 depends on the status of the followed accounts. Privates tends to have more followback ration if accepted.
one of the accounts in the coffeshop niche and the other is an art featuring niche,

 

[Gandalftheblackhat]

Hello BHW,

As most of you guys already know that F/uF is a really good method to start up your account. And after the recent updates a lot of guys is getting AB and even deactivated accounts. Limits are really just speculations for around 1 week I am testing with 2 accounts if I can bypass the limits and prevent action block as much as possible.I am able to follow 70 people every hour for around 15 cycle or more resulting in around 500 accounts daily (private accounts are not included) .

Here are some of my findings:

- Starting with a fresh account is almost asking for AB. Get aged account around 1 year as more than that is kind of useless and give the same result.

- Between every cycle try to browse your home. Look for a carousel and stay around 2 min flipping between the images and even zoom. Bots can't do that.

- It seems like Instagram has changed the limits again. Now even devices have a certain limit. Meaning if you did 100 actions in a phone with 5 account the next action on any of these accounts will get the last account AB.

So you can either get a new cheap phone or do what I did which is using an app which let you install 2 version of Instagram on your device. Each one will get its unique ID and therefore will be counted as a separate device.

-4g is better than wifi. But never faced a problem with either until now.

- I started this week implementing the above. And I am following 70 ppl every hour. I will try to push the limit to see how much I can follow.

- the conversion rate is around 1 to 6 but this depends on the niche. In my case I am getting around 60 followers daily.

I will be including some images in the end of the week and see how much growth did I got and if AB happens.

so you are doing manual follow unfollow? I dont really get it.

 

[Ladis]

so you are doing manual follow unfollow? I dont really get it.

Thats correct. I am testing the limits after Instagram raid on botting in general. I have some new findings that I will be posting here today after work.

 

[DamonSalvatore]

even more than 60 depends on the status of the followed accounts. Privates tends to have more followback ration if accepted.
one of the accounts in the coffeshop niche and the other is an art featuring niche

Its really nice you are trying to help but then again these type of information is what led to the current state.
Its important to stop thinking that achieving big following numbers in days is the route to making it on IG, all the information you have provided will only make people do the same mistake of choosing quantity over quality.
No matter what niche (unless its not that widely talked about on social media) should aim for 30% follow back ratio.
If you focus on who exactly is following you back you don't really have to waste your time following 500 people please make efforts on making quality follows of 200 or so.
If you do that you can handle many accounts.

Even F/UF should be used to only get the account off the ground in the beginning and then later on try and post content similar to the big accounts in your niche, Use a combination of hashtags the big accounts use and post frequently. The account will grow organically if things are done right.