A SEO Case Dilemma

[Tishina]

Hello,

If Google was more logical in the past and you could remove keywords from a page and build a new one with them, it would work and you wouldn't even bother with this.

However, from small insight I got, I think if you do this now, Google doesn't acknowledges the removal of the keywords and a new page optimization with them. It would either still rank the old page or remove its ranking, while the new one is often not seen ranking at all.

Anyone with a take on removing keywords from one page and optimizing another with them? Should there be a period of stillness like 1 month between removing the keywords and the creation of a new page?

I'm reluctant of refurbishing my whole site of improper keyword optimization and need some motivating words.

 

[TheVigilante]

Me too wanted to ask this for a long time especially for Web 2.0's

 

[Tishina]

Me too wanted to ask this for a long time especially for Web 2.0's

Let's hope somebody with a closer look of the situation can join in and share their experience.

 

[Erazify]

Hi,

could you explain to me more in detail what your question is?
Its late at night so my brain doesnt work right lol

When i first started seo 6 months ago i indexed a page i didnt want to index, forgot about it before i found out it was ranking top for a keyword. I then redirected it to mainpage.. i would say it took 1+ month before the mainpage was ranking in the serps and the redirected page was gone.

So if you would switch out the keywords, it will stay in serps for the old keyword for about +-1 month for sure.. tho i didnt switch out the keyword.. i just redirected the whole page... dont think that should matter tho.

 

[Tishina]

Hi,

could you explain to me more in detail what your question is?
Its late at night so my brain doesnt work right lol

When i first started seo 6 months ago i indexed a page i didnt want to index, forgot about it before i found out it was ranking top for a keyword. I then redirected it to mainpage.. i would say it took 1+ month before the mainpage was ranking in the serps and the redirected page was gone.

So if you would switch out the keywords, it will stay in serps for the old keyword for about +-1 month for sure.. tho i didnt switch out the keyword.. i just redirected the whole page... dont think that should matter tho.

Every reply is useful.

In a nutshell, pages are optimized for improper keywords and what is wanted is to deoptimize these pages and create new ones with the keywords. Wondering if these new pages will rank normally.

 

[bahus]

I had kind of mixed results with it (mostly positive). Back in 2018 one of my websites was hit by Google, there were number of reasons for that, one of them on-page over-optimization. While I was able to recover most of the website by rewriting the posts and lowering keyword density, I still have a couple of posts that no matter what I do I can't bring them back to old ranking, I rewrote them (50%), lowered the keyword density, disavow every single link that I know of and still for some strange reason I can't rank them. I even moved the articles to new URLs and 410 the old ones. That didn't work either. It looks like the whole website has some kind of sitewide algo penalty for certain keywords only. It's 2 posts only but it's driving me nuts. On the other hand, the posts that I able to recover by deoptimizing them and lowering keyword density google did notice the change fast and within a couple of weeks the most I got the ranking back. All I can say is instead refurbishing your whole site do it on post/page basis and watch how Google reacts to it. It's important to resubmit your deoptimized posts to index in GSC. It speeds things up. If after 2 weeks of resubmitting your post(s) you don't see any change, most probably whatever you did it's not enough for Google.

 

[VinodChaudhary]

Google will recognize the change is you make a clear separation. Clear separation needs clearly different keywords. If you want to optimize two pages with two keywords that have the same meaning (like SEO company, SEO firm, SEO agency) then you'll just create a mess and nothing else.

But if your one keyword is a sub-heading of another keyword ( like dog food and dog food brands) then for sure you can have clear separate content and clear separate meaning and hence google will recognize it super-quick (in just a couple of days).

So, it all depends on how clearly separate meaningful pages you can create for your keywords.

 

[Bhondawe Patil]

Google will recognize the change is you make a clear separation. Clear separation needs clearly different keywords. If you want to optimize two pages with two keywords that have the same meaning (like SEO company, SEO firm, SEO agency) then you'll just create a mess and nothing else.

But if your one keyword is a sub-heading of another keyword ( like dog food and dog food brands) then for sure you can have clear separate content and clear separate meaning and hence google will recognize it super-quick (in just a couple of days).

So, it all depends on how clearly separate meaningful pages you can create for your keywords.

Thanks for the answer.