Computer screen goes dark for few seconds after restart

[Scorpion Ghost]

I have a bit of an issue with my computer. Here's the situation.

I run the computer with 57 programs running at all times, and it runs for 3-4 days usually before I restart it.

After I restart, as I'm turning on the programs, usually after program 30 at some point the screen will go black and I will only be able to see the mouse pointer loading. That will last for a few seconds and then it will return to normal.

However at this point the programs I've turned on start having weird issues. Like the buttons in the menu (Tools, Help, etc) don't do anything when clicked anymore. Also pretty much all other buttons within the programs stop working. But the programs themselves stay open and can still be partially used.

At this point I close all the programs and re-open them. Then they open fine and I run them normally.

So this is not really an issue other than a waste of my time. But it seems to me that I could figure out why this happens and fix it. I suspect maybe it's the ram. Maybe the ram tries to restore programs from a previous session, but after I turn on 30, 40, 50 of them the ram just buggs out and does some sort of auto-correcting purge, after which it is restored to blank and works perfectly.

What do you guys think?

Thanks

 

[TomTheCat]

Graphic card (maybe a driver problem) or not enough RAM.

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

Graphic card (maybe a driver problem) or not enough RAM.

But this only happens after a restart, and only 1 time. And after it happens I can open all of the programs and run them and run them for days with no issues whatsoever.

If there wasn't enough ram wouldn't it be bugging out constantly?

If it was the graphics card/driver wouldn't the issue be only visual, instead of the opened programs "breaking" until I close and open them again?

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

But this only happens after a restart

Do you have some other programs that are sucking the life out of your computer that also start up in the background?

 

[Degen]

I have a bit of an issue with my computer. Here's the situation.

I run the computer with 57 programs running at all times, and it runs for 3-4 days usually before I restart it.

After I restart, as I'm turning on the programs, usually after program 30 at some point the screen will go black and I will only be able to see the mouse pointer loading. That will last for a few seconds and then it will return to normal.

However at this point the programs I've turned on start having weird issues. Like the buttons in the menu (Tools, Help, etc) don't do anything when clicked anymore. Also pretty much all other buttons within the programs stop working. But the programs themselves stay open and can still be partially used.

At this point I close all the programs and re-open them. Then they open fine and I run them normally.

So this is not really an issue other than a waste of my time. But it seems to me that I could figure out why this happens and fix it. I suspect maybe it's the ram. Maybe the ram tries to restore programs from a previous session, but after I turn on 30, 40, 50 of them the ram just buggs out and does some sort of auto-correcting purge, after which it is restored to blank and works perfectly.

What do you guys think?

Thanks

check for viruses=/malware. As it sounds like your computer is making a remote connection which stops you from preforming actions manually.

 

[HiPurple]

Definitely start with the RAM. That's a lot of simultaneous applications to be running, and the spotty execution and/or display points towards RAM maxout.

PC or Mac?

If PC, you can use System Resources to monitor CPU/RAM usage while the apps are running to see if that is where the leak is.

Laptop or Desktop?

Win 10?

How much Ram is installed?

CPU?

How big is your paging file? Is it partitioned separately?

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

Do you have some other programs that are sucking the life out of your computer that also start up in the background?

No bro. This PC is used just for these programs and I have disabled everything that was starting up. Nothing starts or runs in the background.

check for viruses=/malware. As it sounds like your computer is making a remote connection which stops you from preforming actions manually.

I don't think so. The problem seems to be consistent and only happens at a specific point after opening 30++ programs. If it was a remote connection... well... I don't think it's this. And this computer is never really used. I don't install programs on it, I don't watch porn on it, I don't do any shady shit on it whatsoever. I don't think it's this.

Definitely start with the RAM. That's a lot of simultaneous applications to be running, and the spotty execution and/or display points towards RAM maxout.

PC or Mac?

If PC, you can use System Resources to monitor CPU/RAM usage while the apps are running to see if that is where the leak is.

Laptop or Desktop?

Win 10?

How much Ram is installed?

CPU?

How big is your paging file? Is it partitioned separately?

Okay. Now we're talking.

Yes I think it's the RAM also. In fact, the faster I turn on the programs the quicker this happens. In other words, if I take a few second between opening each program, it takes it longer to happen. The other day I literally got to and opened program 57 (last one), and then I get the black screen. Damn it. Then I had to close all 57 programs and re-open them (at this point after the black screen it always works well).

I have PC with Windows 10 OS.

I do have a CPU/RAM program install on the computer, but I don't really use it. I mean, I could open it, I could look at it, and it would tell me nothing. I wouldn't know what to look for. All I know is that the PC generally runs close to or at 100% RAM and CPU.

I have 2x16GB sticks of RAM, so total 32GB of RAM - 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4/3200 KINGSTON HX432C18FBK2/32, HyperX Fury (I'M OVERCLOCKING IT)

CPU Ryzen 5 2600X

What is a paging file? I don't know what that is. But if it has to do with hard drive I have 256GB SSD - SSD SATA3 240GB Kingston A400 500/350MB/s, SA400S37/240G (HARD DRIVE IS NOT PARTITIONED, WINDOWS AND EVERYTHING ON 1 PARTITION)

So what do you think? If it's RAM sort of auto-adjusting itself due to overloading and trying to restore saved memory, wouldn't some program that clears out the RAM do the trick? At first thought I would think RAM clears out after a computer restart, but on second thought it might not. So I could maybe set it to auto-clear with a restart, or maybe run some program after a restart that clears it out, and then run my programs.

What do you think?

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

@davids355 - do you have any thoughts on this?

 

[HiPurple]

Those RAM free programs are useless on W10, so forget about that.

And you don't usually need a paging file for an SSD (as opposed to HDD), so you're ok there.

Likewise, an SSD doesn't need to be partitioned.

Yes, the restart of the PC does clear out the RAM, which is why you're experiencing relief from the issue after restart.

This indicates the leak is in fact with the overclocking of the CPU plus the maxout of installed RAM in running so many simultaneous apps:

All I know is that the PC generally runs close to or at 100% RAM and CPU.

Your possible fixes:

Add more RAM if you can. This is the cheapest option in terms of additional expense, although it looks like you may not have slots left.

Upgrade the CPU. Usually not worth the money.

Update your drivers. (You should do this regularly anyway, e.g. with DriverMax Free).

Reduce/eliminate memory-intensive apps, such as Windows notifications, etc.

Check for malware.

If P2P share is still enabled, disable it.

Reduce the number of applications you're running simultaneously.

Identify via System Resources which program(s) is the most taxing and move it to another machine.

Restart the PC more often.

 

[ziplack]

how about temperature ?

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

Those RAM free programs are useless on W10, so forget about that.

And you don't usually need a paging file for an SSD (as opposed to HDD), so you're ok there.

Likewise, an SSD doesn't need to be partitioned.

Yes, the restart of the PC does clear out the RAM, which is why you're experiencing relief from the issue after restart.

This indicates the leak is in fact with the overclocking of the CPU plus the maxout of installed RAM in running so many simultaneous apps:




Your possible fixes:

Add more RAM if you can. This is the cheapest option in terms of additional expense, although it looks like you may not have slots left.

Upgrade the CPU. Usually not worth the money.

Update your drivers. (You should do this regularly anyway, e.g. with DriverMax Free).

Reduce/eliminate memory-intensive apps, such as Windows notifications, etc.

Check for malware.

If P2P share is still enabled, disable it.

Reduce the number of applications you're running simultaneously.

Identify via System Resources which program(s) is the most taxing and move it to another machine.

Restart the PC more often.

Well, actually restarting the PC doesn't offer any relief. The problem only happens after a restart.

I restart the PC. I open programs. Problem happens. I close all opened programs and open them again. Then it works normally.

And it all work normally Until I restart again. So it's after a restart that I experience the problem, which i weird.

And by the way, after the black screen issue I can tell the programs open and work just a liiiiitle bit faster and better.

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

how about temperature ?

I don't think so. If it was a temperature issue wouldn't the PC be bugging out after running 24/7 for 4 days straight, instead of bugging out after a restart?

 

[HiPurple]

And it all work normally Until I restart again. So it's after a restart that I experience the problem, which i weird.

And by the way, after the black screen issue I can tell the programs open and work just a liiiiitle bit faster and better.

You may have a delayed startup on some of those apps which could explain a momentary BSOD.

I'll defer to @davids355 . It's been a few (ok, a lot of) years since I was in IT.

 

[TomTheCat]

Try to open each program with a delay of 1 minute, if possible. Automate it with a script.

 

[ziplack]

computers dont do great on high temperatures
thats why all data centers are cold af.

 

[HiPurple]

computers dont do great on high temperatures
thats why all data centers are cold af.

This for sure. I was having similar issues as yours until I figured out that my CPU was overheating. Fixed the problem with a $30 laptop stand from Amazon.

 

[Scorpion Ghost]

You may have a delayed startup on some of those apps which could explain a momentary BSOD.

I'll defer to @davids355 . It's been a few (ok, a lot of) years since I was in IT.

There's no delayed startup on anything. I don't have anything on that computer other than those 57 programs and some text files. Everything else is removed and disabled. I don't use the computer at all other than the 57 programs.

Try to open each program with a delay of 1 minute, if possible. Automate it with a script.

I did that. And that works, sort of.

If I open the programs fast, usually around program 30 I get the black screen. If I do it with a delay then I can get higher. But eventually I will get the black screen anyway. Plus everything moves a little slower before the black screen.

And one time I went super fast double clicking and opening the programs with lightening speed, at which point the black screen came up and it didn't go away and I had to restart the computer

 

[HoNeYBiRD]

If it happens after a restart, it must be one or more Windows process in the background, which runs after a restart/boot, e.g. update check. The issue is RAM related as you thought. How long do you usually wait before you start launching the programs? Wait more until the system is fully loaded and all background Windows processes finished their thang. While 32 GB of RAM is plenty, but 57 programs are a lot to run, they can get only 500 MB each. Maybe consider adding more RAM.

If you don't want to start all those programs manually everytime, make a batch file with all of them and don't forget to put delays between starts or use the "pause" command: https://stackoverflow.com/a/5535154

 

[davids355]

Open task manager then click on performance tab and open performance monitor.

do that when it starts up, and watch the memory usage, disk activity and processor.

look out for either the available ram going to zero, the processor maxing out or the disk queue peaking at 10 or more. Then you might pinpoint the issue.

I must admit though it sounds like graphics, and possibly the graphics is using some of the ram and the ram is running out causing the graphics to struggle? It may just be that on start up, many processes are consuming ram and perhaps not releasing it quickly enough, hence it running out.

but then once you close and re-open the programs, it’s only the program usage rather than programs SND other startup tasks.

anyway, I’d definitely be looking at performance monitor first off.

 

[blackwalker]

idk what everyone else above me said but as a computer repair specialist, its hard to say with that info you gave but I think it would be lucky to say you have a cpu heatsink thermal paste bond problem or the Hard drive/ssd you're running has a problem. I'd start with that and if you are running windows, do a quick defrag https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+run+a+defrag

Edit: After reading everything above me I would suggest not clicking on 57 programs when starting, try to go in groups of 5-10 but holy heck dude who runs 57 programs. check your ran and wait like 2 mins between opeining each group. maybe like set us a script to do so.

You should be good. It just sounds like you are chocking the ram when starting up and opening all of those.https://smallbusiness.chron.com/ram-affect-fast-computer-starts-up-69760.html

tl;dr: check ram as starting programs and/or wait like 5 mins after you computer fully starts