God Bless Indian Programmers!!!

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It's not like people are out to get Indians. But due to your population size, you guys are everywhere. There is a very slim chance that someone who works in IM won't come across horrible work done by an Indian.

Do you indirectly say that others not even capable of doing IM work? :)
 
I actually wrote not said.
But, an Indian getting offended by stating facts about Indian freelancers and population size without saying anything offending?

That's a surprise!1!!!11!1!
 
Been there and in the end, wasted more time than paying a decent European coder, always cheap =shit! ALWAYS!

It's not just European coders who are good, North American programmers, Chinese and Cambodian programmers are also decent.

Not true.. You get what you paid for.
There are skilled people as well. Obviously No one work for pennies these days.
Cant blame the workers when the employer pay cheap.
Duh !

There are other non-first world countries which work for cheap and produce good quality code. I've met a few native Cambodian programmers when I was out there who were decent programmers who work for $300 - $500 a month.

We are not talking about food, we talk about how these people work cheap and provide sh1t services/products, at least in the online world i never got a good service from an indian, sorry. Just my experience.

I hate to admit but thinking back I'm in the same boat.

What was the app they were coding, and in what language?

Just a Node web app fairly basic stuff but nothing was sanitised a lot of stuff cut and pasted from stack overflow which was just patched together.

Your clients are as ignorant as you are. You get what you pay for and it has nothing to do with the country.
(no, im not from india)

Oh but I think it does you simply don't get nearly the same number of complaints and headaches with other cheap countries. (Eastern Europe, China, Cambodia).

A bad experience with any other country service provider, they let it go, but if it is an Indian. They talk bad about the country and cry about it — usual happening in an online forum. BHW is not an exception.

There is no smoke without fire.

How does one scam company represent the entire country ?

Even Google CEO is an Indian

Bring up the quality of Indian code (or lack thereof) and the CEO of Google is always brought up.

Edit: To whom it may concern. :D

You hired the shit guys, coz you didn't know what to expect ( in other words, you're a noob, lol). Your whole interview process was wrong, probably. Did you bother giving them a test task before hiring them? Did you bother checking their code quality? Did you sign a physical contract with them?

It has nothing to do with hiring someone, from any country for that matter. Programming and project management skills are more important than country. There will always be good, bad and the ugly ones. You gotta know what you are dealing with.. lol.

I didn't hire anyone I was just the guy paid to fix their mistakes (Usually its a full-blown rewrite.)
 
There are other non-first world countries which work for cheap and produce good quality code. I've met a few native Cambodian programmers when I was out there who were decent programmers who work for $300 - $500 a month.
Well, good programmers even in third world countries make more than 4 times what you mentioned without any effort whatsoever. I know this coz i am a programmer from a third world country.

It's not just European coders who are good, North American programmers, Chinese and Cambodian programmers are also decent.
Seriously, how ignorant are you? Being a good programmer has nothing to do with the country. I agree with content writing, native writers have an edge.

India is easily one of the top countries with most open source contributions.

I agree with @KHer0 on this
met gazillion of shitty indian service providers and handful of great ones.

Its Just when you have +1 billion citizens country where most talk English (unlike China) you get everything 100x times.

You just have to know how to filter out bad apples. And believe me it is not as hard.
 
I didn't hire anyone I was just the guy paid to fix their mistakes (Usually its a full-blown rewrite.)
Yeah, I read that. See my edit.
That said, your intention is clearly to demean programmers who are from India. Otherwise, this thread could not have been titled such way. That's where the problem is. You are clearly being ignorant. You can't really judge all programmers after seeing two clients coming to thou for help.

I am from India, and I also happen to be a programmer. That means, this "racist" thread is also directed to me... and I hate that.
 
Today I've just been contacted by a second new client in a week who decided to go the cheap route outsource their site to an Indian coding company and have been left with a half-finished scrambled mess of spaghetti code.


Tell your cheap ass clients to hire someone from a country where apprantely all coders deliver 100% then. First your clients do not know a good selection process so they are equally to blame in not understanding how to give the correct scope of work and secondly it is not justified to bring out this thread which basically insults the work ethics of programmers in the worlds largest population.

For sure some of the worlds top programmers are indian but those top prpgrammers won't always sit on freelancer and on top of that charge 5dollars per hour. These individuals that are on there are looking for a few extra bucks and in the learning process and your clients need to realise this and explain in detail and be patient.
 
its nothing to do with location...its more to do with individual attitude. Moreover a lot of people want Uber like, Facebook like apps and have no clue what goes to design and build one...apparent these kind of people will always be prey of such individual / companies who will have nothing to provide other than spaghetti
 
It is ridiculous to blame a bad experience on an entire race or country. We have many savvy members from India.
If I was were I wanted to be I’ll try to get the guy who do work for me time to time moved over here. One time I tried to bypass fivver and get his direct contact info. They flagged me. :mad:
 
Its true, seems like there are going to be good business opportunities. Personally I dont think Indian companies are easy to work with for US businesses they always need a liason in between.
 
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