NETWORK PURGE - HOW IG PURGE AUTOMATION USERS NOWADAYS

[Postercamp]

I recently created an account for a client's website. Used a VPN to setup the account thinking the few days of cookies on my browser would suffice for verifying that I wasn't a bot, spam, etc.

Banned. Immediately. I was never even able to log into the account–which is how I noticed the issue. A warning appeared when trying to login referring me to contact support.

So, my only option for recovery was reaching out to their support via a "mobile only" link. There I found a portal to submit my issue.

In order to even submit the request to lift my account ban, I had to either provide:
A. EIN/tax documents (my client was unlikely to send a copy)
B. proof of business location (there isn't one yet)
C. provide proof of ownership for a 'business domain.'

I chose the latter option despite it being fairly vague using my namecheap purchase receipts including the business owners name, the same name used to buy the domain and create the IG account.

A couple days went by and Instagram was a ghost town. No confirmation email about my request, not even to let me know that they received the form. Plus, I was unable to create another account with the banned handle.

FINALLY, on the third day I received an email letting me know that the account has been reinstated. No reason for the ban was provided.


Bottom Line:
If you're creating a spam account, do the steps up front to make your account appear to be connected to a business. If you're creating a business account, save a copy of all your paper work and receipts for domains and other online assets–you will need them!

Thats out of case really.
And your creation way is worse.
And youre just created one account.

Like OP said, dont bother to speculate

 

[Edvard Benk]

well, I get followblocks even on my home IP, so proxies are a bit of a stretch to me.....

 

[slickkilla]

well, I get followblocks even on my home IP, so proxies are a bit of a stretch to me.....

What’s the op is talking about has to do with IPs in general not with just proxies. What he explains has to do with the entire subnet. Like the subnet your home ip runs on has a specific limit of follows a user can do a month as explained by the op.

 

[Edvard Benk]

What’s the op is talking about has to do with IPs in general not with just proxies. What he explains has to do with the entire subnet. Like the subnet your home ip runs on has a specific limit of follows a user can do a month as explained by the op.

well shit then

 

[imHugoLeandro]

Atention this only applies to subnets with all botting Instagram accounts!!!
So DC proxies you can use this formula bot for 4G is competly different

https://prnt.sc/o8o2a0

 

[JakLei]

So we are able to figure out that the problem is proxies, but now what's the solution?

 

[Brickbat1]

So in a nutshell, how do you figure out the follow limit for one's subnet....no other way but to experiment right? Means one persons limits may not work for another person...no more central safe settings...every one is on his own now not so?

 

[L4x]

So in a nutshell, how do you figure out the follow limit for one's subnet....no other way but to experiment right? Means one persons limits may not work for another person...no more central safe settings...every one is on his own now not so?

I found a Proxy Seller who deliver a solution for that. Every Account until the XXXth, will get his own Proxy / ASN from a different geo location in a country. So i have a pool from XK, X Accounts per Subnetz / Same IP. I will test it tomorrow. When i fail. I will share the proxy seller to all provider.

 

[Heisenberg's Hat]

Well, some guy hit me up with a blogspot from a worker of IG, I dont remember the link so take what I say with the least serious considerations you can.

Instead of purging settings A, B or C IG found a better way to purge/damage automation users.
What is the same thing we all share in common?

We have different settings
We have different ways to create profiles
We have different niches
We have different automation tools

But we share the commom resource that almost none normal user stay close...

Proxies.

Whatever is your setting, whatever is the tool, whatever account creation method we are share the network trait of using proxies.

Well, what they did?

Now lets say we have the Subnet A of a Provider Called SpartanProxies.
Spartan Proxies sell IPV4/IPV6, but as every proxy need a real device/connection to mirror we can say Spartan Proxies of Bingolingo country share usually the same ranges and subnet.
What IG did?
Now they analyze all the comming traffic and requests of every range/subnet, that in our cases is Spartan Proxies that comes from Bingolingo country.
Lets say we have 10 users connected to that specific subnet/range..
Now we can say that the Average number of Actions PER USER is equal to:
All Actions / (DIVIDED) by 10 = the formula is number of all actions /(divided) by number of users
What they are doing now, they take the 25% of the users that used the lower number of actions on that subnet, that in this case would be 2 user and half, and then they compare.
Action made by 25% of users /(divided) 2.5 users[on this case] and you have the number of actions of the lower percentage of users.

Then they compare that average number of actions of the lowest action users on that subnet to the average number of actions of the subnet and with your specific number of actions.

Lets say 10.000 actions were done by all 10 users combined, 10000/10= 1.000 Actions Per user
Lets say 1000 actions were done by 25% of users, 1000/2.5 (on this case) 400 actions per individual 25% of users

This means that if you did 1500 actions you are considered a high risk user of that subnet, if you did 200 you are considered a safe risk user of that subnet and so on..

What that means?
Now they cross your average number of actions and compare to the subnet number of actions PLUS the average number of that subnet and with the country/state average number and with IG limits.

Lets say your subnet only consist of automation users, the average number of actions is 9000 monthly, who would be something like 30 per day.
If you did less than that you could be considered a safe user of that subnet. but NOT A SAFE IG user because your actions crossed their limits.

This is why the 6k/30 days is flexible and why some user have been able to follow again after some days of no action (that they become part of the lower 25% of that subnet).

If someone find the link feel free to post and I Will Edit

Can they really detect proxies? (not sure what you are demonstrating with actions/subnet)

Or isn't it just the IP-ranges of those proxies that are used by proxy providers and VPS virtual machines that are being used? Such lists are not hard to do, and if you block all the traffic from those IPs you got all the automation folks.

Which would leave the option to create proxies that do not fall into these ranges.

And another one: looks like the automation tools like Jarvee and GMT are outdated and leave clear marks, so automation uses are clearly identifiable.

I'm not talking about my own experience. I wanted to set up for my own account when all this happened and at the moment I don't know what to do. I don't want to become a pro Instagram marketer just getting out of the Instagram Blackmail : "We are destroying your organic reach so you look bad to your clients UNLESS you buy our overpriced ads"

I have repeatedly heard of custom created Instagram bots that are not as traceable.

Let me know what you think, folks. But it looks like Jarvee, GMT, and all the others, just like the like panels, have been successfully taken out of the game by Instagram as being not sophisticated enough. Likely, their coding stems from years back when Instagram was basically helpless against automation.

 

[kittykut]

then why im blocked on 4g proxy

 

[Brickbat1]

then why im blocked on 4g proxy

He just explained it. Anybody can be blocked that crosses the algorithms threshholds, even normal hand phone users..

 

[i[Defy]Pi™]

This forum amazes me. OP brings up a bunch of good points and you guys ramble on about "well i haven't been banned yet so ur wrong" and "omg what is teh fix op?".

Instagram is not coded by some kid in a sweatshop these engineers/programmers need to be OUTSMARTED. User agents / residential ips / perfect account history means nothing if you are following the same range of people EVERY DAY. Who tf in there right mind is on instagram every single day following people in a similar pattern that ISNT a bot. Take some days off, take some days on HEAVY, but do not keep your pattern a pattern, be a human. I know this is hard to replicate but think about what an average instagram user's engagement looks like. You haven't liked one photo on your account? Suspicious. You like only posts from people you just followed? Suspicious. You dm 2-5 people daily with ANY type of link? Suspicious. Its not hard for them to track your account from day 1 and see you're just "warming up" like everybody else. /endrant

Seriously just think your plans through guys, long gone are the days of set and forget IG spamming.

 

[KJB714]

i’m doing just fine with residential proxies, only getting some blocks on accounts using cheap proxies

do your residential proxies rotate?

 

[MacMillery2105]

I found a Proxy Seller who deliver a solution for that. Every Account until the XXXth, will get his own Proxy / ASN from a different geo location in a country. So i have a pool from XK, X Accounts per Subnetz / Same IP. I will test it tomorrow. When i fail. I will share the proxy seller to all provider.

Which Proxy seller?

 

[MarkWilson]

2 questions:

1) will I be affected by this, even if I use 4g proxies with Sims that are from big mobile providers and are supposed to have a wide range of subnets and IPs?
2) does the use of unofficial API, in your opinion, have an influence too? Or is the problem given only by proxies?

 

[tubatesmal]

Can they really detect proxies? (not sure what you are demonstrating with actions/subnet)

Or isn't it just the IP-ranges of those proxies that are used by proxy providers and VPS virtual machines that are being used? Such lists are not hard to do, and if you block all the traffic from those IPs you got all the automation folks.

Which would leave the option to create proxies that do not fall into these ranges.

And another one: looks like the automation tools like Jarvee and GMT are outdated and leave clear marks, so automation uses are clearly identifiable.

I'm not talking about my own experience. I wanted to set up for my own account when all this happened and at the moment I don't know what to do. I don't want to become a pro Instagram marketer just getting out of the Instagram Blackmail : "We are destroying your organic reach so you look bad to your clients UNLESS you buy our overpriced ads"

I have repeatedly heard of custom created Instagram bots that are not as traceable.

Let me know what you think, folks. But it looks like Jarvee, GMT, and all the others, just like the like panels, have been successfully taken out of the game by Instagram as being not sophisticated enough. Likely, their coding stems from years back when Instagram was basically helpless against automation.

All your posts in this recent threads related to blocks tend fall into your own conclusion : API is the problem, Jarvee is outdated, software sucks.

Dont get me wrong but did ever investigated to keep those conclusions? I believe you dont, because if you did you wont be saying that. What he says is exactly true and yes ipv4 proxt providers are being capped hard.

Panels being offline is another story that has really "nothing" to do with Automation itself.

 

[tadeuonbrand]

I believe more in a flagged session, than a IP block or account!

 

[pballday]

do your residential proxies rotate?

I use some unique residential proxies that are static with 4 accounts on each one.

 

[KJB714]

I use some unique residential proxies that are static with 4 accounts on each one.

Thanks !!

 

[Brickbat1]

2 questions:

1) will I be affected by this, even if I use 4g proxies with Sims that are from big mobile providers and are supposed to have a wide range of subnets and IPs?
2) does the use of unofficial API, in your opinion, have an influence too? Or is the problem given only by proxies?

2 questions:

1) will I be affected by this, even if I use 4g proxies with Sims that are from big mobile providers and are supposed to have a wide range of subnets and IPs
2) does the use of unofficial API, in your opinion, have an influence too? Or is the problem given only by proxies?

Answer to question 1 is yes. Every ip is affected, 4g or not. You wont notice if you never reach the limits or your subnet is in an area of dense with Instagram users, so limits are higher on average.

Answer to question 2, anything that gives the game away, gives the game away. So if an api has been flagged, it will trigger limits, just as ips breaching limits trigger the blocks.