NETWORK PURGE - HOW IG PURGE AUTOMATION USERS NOWADAYS

BrazilianBusinessman said:

A computer is Just a compilated mix of fluid nor, and, xnor and other primitivos ports that can recombinar using the operational system as the compiller to each action made by us (click, press etc) result in a response for the machine that see the translation of that click into binary
Example mouse click
01011011
So doesnt matter the coding skills It all Goes back to primordial primitive rules and ports
So dont matter If Mac, Microsoft, xiomi, whatever you choose any machine run through binary
And because of This we have some primitiva breaches too because to make something flexible and fluid you end up generating some counter failures/weakness
So when you found a bug you Just Found a combination of primitive ports that are allowed to exist to make the compiler and flexibility usefull
But like I said each Port have a primitiva usage that also comes with a potential failure
If you combine two ands you can forma a not, If you combine sequentially some nor,or with and you can generate a xnor

The primitive failure start that If you understand It

At att the network level shit Just get worse
Because the network is Just the transmission of data (Packets) from a requesting point that is requesting a server counterpart data.
So If you are connecting or requesting data from a server It can see by primitive measures who you really are
A machine A have specific primitive weakness and machine B have others
Each weakness lead to open Retrieve of data and information from the counterpart
So unless you built a New machine without binary and primitiva ports There isa mpossible outcomes

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Do you know how an anonymous proxy works? Look it up lmao. Look up what a High anonymity proxy is too lol. I could tell you how they work and why they're so great at what they do, but that would just take the fun out of learning for you now wouldn't it

Jibri Wright said:

Instagram doesn't use a UDP connection except when you're streaming live. And TCP can DEFINITELY be spoofed at the network layer lmao. And yes computer programming field is always adapting, but most languages are based in core fundamental principles that are based off of how the hardware underneath works. The lower level the language, the more and more you're manipulating the hardware itself. So a programmer that knows how to program in say C++ has a foundation on how the hardware itself works and can most likely pick up the higher level languages with ease (trust me it's a thing). Every new language that is designed still has to work off of these fundamentals which is why picking up new languages isn't difficult for an experienced programmer. Where are you getting your information from?

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They dont need to use UDP, but they do because There are some cool breaches you can find when you check the Packets and even the patterns, the advance of technology still depend on primitive ports and premises that basically have some specific weakness

A machine is built to respond in a fixed way and non caotic
So If you are sending X Multiple times from a specific scenario you Will basically get the same responses and requests, correct?

So If you already have a database to correlate with (encapsulated information, devices used {Mac adress, browser fingerprint, Canvas fingerprint,...}) You can Just compare thousands of queries to see the difference on the outputs
Imagine you have a machine Z and you wanna spoof machine A
Unless you have a total/global compiller you can only spoof specific scenarios but not all of them, This is when shit gets Wild
You spoofed the browser agent, the connection request but not the encapsulated request
Its like you are into France, learned french, is speaking frech but people see you dont belong There
At a machine level This happen

Jibri Wright said:

Do you know how an anonymous proxy works? Look it up lmao. Look up what a High anonymity proxy is too lol. I could tell you how they work and why they're so great at what they do, but that would just take the fun out of learning for you now wouldn't it

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If what you Said were true Nobody could be Tracker through to.r network or using tails but It can happen, you can believe anything you wish like people did before all the science concepts changed and so on
The machine requests aint fluid, unless you can spoof all all binary whole compiler and context you are Just pretending to be (that work on majority of scenarios).

Its like the guys who clean their browser cookies, set up socks5 and everything else and then they got denied because they forgot their operational system is with a different timezone than normal

Also I completely know the different types of Proxy, their difference in "teory" and How to do, make them, where they come from, How a connection is created, asn, ARIN, ISP registering and the whole blablabla

But This doesnt change the fact that we "can" have some primitive breaches that doesnt matter the outcome will always be compromised, like you were doing something from the raw material that was with radiation, doesnt matter the result It Will have somehow radiation too even If you use the most clean and safe procedures
This is why There is a huge interesting of moving from binary to a possible caotic system but with controlled premise, that is basically the only way you can have a fluid machine that can also generate caotic Actions (Actions that aint fixed).

So doesnt matter Mine or your coding skill If the thing have inbuilt failures by nature

they have more then two balls.

BrazilianBusinessman said:

Also I completely know the different types of Proxy, their difference in "teory" and How to do, make them, where they come from, How a connection is created, asn, ARIN, ISP registering and the whole blablabla

But This doesnt change the fact that we "can" have some primitive breaches that doesnt matter the outcome will always be compromised, like you were doing something from the raw material that was with radiation, doesnt matter the result It Will have somehow radiation too even If you use the most clean and safe procedures
This is why There is a huge interesting of moving from binary to a possible caotic system but with controlled premise, that is basically the only way you can have a fluid machine that can also generate caotic Actions (Actions that aint fixed).

So doesnt matter Mine or your coding skill If the thing have inbuilt failures by nature

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lmao so basically you didn't look up what I said to look up lmao. Do you understand WHY high anonymity proxies don't register as proxies and don't give out the original device's IP address? When you can answer that you'll understand why what you just said is wrong lol. There are ways around EVERYTHING

BrazilianBusinessman said:

It doesnt matter, It would take me all day to explain that almost all operational systems have exploits that Will give the real/final device user IP or information when requested.
But This is other level of things, I Just wanna say that you dont need to keep digging something built to waste your time and sanity, instead find what work, scale It and spend the less time you can and proceed.

IG knows you aré botting doesnt matter the Tool being coded or not, massive or New, but you Just need to make It work and its basically that.

There is a huge difference of How things are measures, be Someone clean and you Will have x view, be Someone dirty and have z view from society

IG is tired of mocking users who disturb anyone everytime, Just dont be one and you are safe

Doesnt matter If you can code
If you are a genius coder
Every computer needs electricity, so If the primitive problem is on that level doesnt matter your coding skills or not.
Its like you make a wall, hide with curtains, make literally a nuclear shelter but you forgot that the supply of water can be seen so doesnt matter If you drink the cup in the other side of the world because It can be checked on the water reserve

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Hi guys, I continued testing with 4g hotspots and with proxy 4g, and I'm looking for the best way to manage customer accounts. I state that none of the sites visited can (directly) detect that I am using 4g proxies. Inside Jarvee the WebRTC is disabled as many other types of fingerprints are disabled, it is probably a security that Jarvee uses to protect users, Jarvee assigns a fake Android user agent and so far so good. The problem starts with more in-depth analysis, as in many sites the persistent problem is that an operating system inconsistency is detected. (analyzed with whatleaks.com) An android for user agent and a Windows for requests. Using proxies. Analyzing my phone without proxy and without Jarvee (normal condition of the average user on instagram) a perfect congruence is detected, android- android. Inside Jarvee if I use hotspots a difference is detected in the passive os fingerprint, because with hotspots it is windows / linux, with proxy 4g inside Jarvee the passive os fingerprint is consistent linux / linux (as if I used the phone rightly without proxy). Outside Jarvee, I noticed that the tests are more consistent via hotspots, as with proxy or hide the WebRTC or true IP is detected. My question is: what types of fingerprints are left and discovered by instagram using Jarvee with API? Is it better to use Jarvee exclusively with API or with Embed Browser? My goal is to be as similar as possible to a normal user, I understood to win this battle the best strategy is to be as much as possible mixed in the mass. Do you know an automation tool that is perfectly consistent in the analyzes? Do you think it is better to use proxy 4g or hotspot from your phone?

Jibri Wright said:

lmao so basically you didn't look up what I said to look up lmao. Do you understand WHY high anonymity proxies don't register as proxies and don't give out the original device's IP address? When you can answer that you'll understand why what you just said is wrong lol. There are ways around EVERYTHING

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The problem detected in my tests is unfortunately not at the level of the proxy, the detected IP address is detected through WebRTC which obviously can be easily hidden, but instagram certainly sees that you are hiding something, the average user has nothing to hide.

In any case, the IP address detected by the WebRtc is the one to which my PC is currently connected, or the home line.
Then IP1 address that of Pxoxy4g, IP2 address that of the home line, this obviously without hiding the WebRtc.
Using Hotspots from the phone obviously there is no need to hide the WebRtc as the two IPs are the same.
The problem is that Jarvee automatically hides many fingerprints, and so it forces you to be different from the mass.
And in addition it hides many things but not perfectly, as in my tests there is a difference between the operating system given by the fake user agent (Android) and the real Windows operating system.
I think this is a problem given by Jarvee and not by the proxy.

manureverse said:

The problem detected in my tests is unfortunately not at the level of the proxy, the detected IP address is detected through WebRTC which obviously can be easily hidden, but instagram certainly sees that you are hiding something, the average user has nothing to hide.

In any case, the IP address detected by the WebRtc is the one to which my PC is currently connected, or the home line.
Then IP1 address that of Pxoxy4g, IP2 address that of the home line, this obviously without hiding the WebRtc.
Using Hotspots from the phone obviously there is no need to hide the WebRtc as the two IPs are the same.
The problem is that Jarvee automatically hides many fingerprints, and so it forces you to be different from the mass.
And in addition it hides many things but not perfectly, as in my tests there is a difference between the operating system given by the fake user agent (Android) and the real Windows operating system.
I think this is a problem given by Jarvee and not by the proxy.

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Finally someone realized the shit of Jarvee code !

tadeuonbrand said:

Finally someone realized the shit of Jarvee code !

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@tadeuonbrand I'm really looking for an alternative that can have consistent results in the tests, and that can make you hide among the masses. I understood after many tests that the best solution is probably to be as hidden as possible among the average users. What software do you use? Do you know any software that in your tests was not as inconsistent as Jarvee? Thanks in advance.

manureverse said:

The problem detected in my tests is unfortunately not at the level of the proxy, the detected IP address is detected through WebRTC which obviously can be easily hidden, but instagram certainly sees that you are hiding something, the average user has nothing to hide.

In any case, the IP address detected by the WebRtc is the one to which my PC is currently connected, or the home line.
Then IP1 address that of Pxoxy4g, IP2 address that of the home line, this obviously without hiding the WebRtc.
Using Hotspots from the phone obviously there is no need to hide the WebRtc as the two IPs are the same.
The problem is that Jarvee automatically hides many fingerprints, and so it forces you to be different from the mass.
And in addition it hides many things but not perfectly, as in my tests there is a difference between the operating system given by the fake user agent (Android) and the real Windows operating system.
I think this is a problem given by Jarvee and not by the proxy.

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Look up Passive OS Fingerprinting. Basically the packets on your network layer have information binded to them by the OS they're sent from that can be used to cold-read what operating system they're sent from. This however can also be changed! Usually in the Registry Editor in Windows. But look up TTL more specifically and learn how it may differ between devices.

can we ban all people who work for instagram but they are here reading this? how can we detect them and ban those assholes once forever. this will fix all our problems.

Alex Milenkowich said:

can we ban all people who work for instagram but they are here reading this? how can we detect them and ban those assholes once forever. this will fix all our problems.

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Tell me How, could be you or could be me who knows

Jibri Wright said:

Look up Passive OS Fingerprinting. Basically the packets on your network layer have information binded to them by the OS they're sent from that can be used to cold-read what operating system they're sent from. This however can also be changed! Usually in the Registry Editor in Windows. But look up TTL more specifically and learn how it may differ between devices.

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What is this? I've never seen anything like this in any of the HTTP requests / packets / headers made to Instagram.

Tommy T said:

What is this? I've never seen anything like this in any of the HTTP requests / packets / headers made to Instagram.

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That's because this information isn't in the HTTP header. It's in the underlying TCP/IP headers of the packet that is accessed through the network layer. This information is determined by your operating system when it sends packets and can be used to determine what operating system the packet was sent from. Heck you can do this yourself using Wireshark

Jibri Wright said:

That's because this information isn't in the HTTP header. It's in the underlying TCP/IP headers of the packet that is accessed through the network layer. This information is determined by your operating system when it sends packets and can be used to determine what operating system the packet was sent from. Heck you can do this yourself using Wireshark

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Yup but the hole goes deeper and deeper This is why we Just need to find what is usefull and reduce the time as much as possible and keep going

Jibri Wright said:

That's because this information isn't in the HTTP header. It's in the underlying TCP/IP headers of the packet that is accessed through the network layer. This information is determined by your operating system when it sends packets and can be used to determine what operating system the packet was sent from. Heck you can do this yourself using Wireshark

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I guess the question then becomes, why does it matter or why does it look suspicious? Maybe it just means that you should be running automation on platforms like osx, windows, ios, android, etc.

Tommy T said:

I guess the question then becomes, why does it matter or why does it look suspicious? Maybe it just means that you should be running automation on platforms like osx, windows, ios, android, etc.

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Well imagine you are using a Android cellphone user agent but your encapsulated TCP header show you are a Windows 10 user
For sure its normal

BrazilianBusinessman said:

Well imagine you are using a Android cellphone user agent but your encapsulated TCP header show you are a Windows 10 user
For sure its normal

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Unfortunately, the problem I am experiencing is this.
How do you think it can be solved?
Analyzing with privacy.net or with whatleaks.com (inside jarve embed browser) it turns out to be user android agent, windows operating system, and I'm not talking about passive os fingerprint.
Do you think in the API which fingerprint is able to detect?
Better API or embed browser?

BrazilianBusinessman said:

Well imagine you are using a Android cellphone user agent but your encapsulated TCP header show you are a Windows 10 user
For sure its normal

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lol no it doesn't