NETWORK PURGE - HOW IG PURGE AUTOMATION USERS NOWADAYS

[BrazilianBusinessman]

Well, some guy hit me up with a blogspot from a worker of IG, I dont remember the link so take what I say with the least serious considerations you can.

Instead of purging settings A, B or C IG found a better way to purge/damage automation users.
What is the same thing we all share in common?

We have different settings
We have different ways to create profiles
We have different niches
We have different automation tools

But we share the commom resource that almost none normal user stay close...

Proxies.

Whatever is your setting, whatever is the tool, whatever account creation method we are share the network trait of using proxies.

Well, what they did?

Now lets say we have the Subnet A of a Provider Called SpartanProxies.
Spartan Proxies sell IPV4/IPV6, but as every proxy need a real device/connection to mirror we can say Spartan Proxies of Bingolingo country share usually the same ranges and subnet.
What IG did?
Now they analyze all the comming traffic and requests of every range/subnet, that in our cases is Spartan Proxies that comes from Bingolingo country.
Lets say we have 10 users connected to that specific subnet/range..
Now we can say that the Average number of Actions PER USER is equal to:
All Actions / (DIVIDED) by 10 = the formula is number of all actions /(divided) by number of users
What they are doing now, they take the 25% of the users that used the lower number of actions on that subnet, that in this case would be 2 user and half, and then they compare.
Action made by 25% of users /(divided) 2.5 users[on this case] and you have the number of actions of the lower percentage of users.

Then they compare that average number of actions of the lowest action users on that subnet to the average number of actions of the subnet and with your specific number of actions.

Lets say 10.000 actions were done by all 10 users combined, 10000/10= 1.000 Actions Per user
Lets say 1000 actions were done by 25% of users, 1000/2.5 (on this case) 400 actions per individual 25% of users

This means that if you did 1500 actions you are considered a high risk user of that subnet, if you did 200 you are considered a safe risk user of that subnet and so on..

What that means?
Now they cross your average number of actions and compare to the subnet number of actions PLUS the average number of that subnet and with the country/state average number and with IG limits.

Lets say your subnet only consist of automation users, the average number of actions is 9000 monthly, who would be something like 30 per day.
If you did less than that you could be considered a safe user of that subnet. but NOT A SAFE IG user because your actions crossed their limits.

This is why the 6k/30 days is flexible and why some user have been able to follow again after some days of no action (that they become part of the lower 25% of that subnet).

If someone find the link feel free to post and I Will Edit

 

[pballday]

i’m doing just fine with residential proxies, only getting some blocks on accounts using cheap proxies

 

[BrazilianBusinessman]

i’m doing just fine with residential proxies, only getting some blocks on accounts using cheap proxies

Sorry to say, I have more than 2k accounts working and 1.5k that I use for testing with multiple providers, ipv6, ipv4 and 4g, almost every provider I have and I use different settings and I concluded the major change is real, I doesnt have to hear if it works for you or not IF you dont tested with atleast 350 accounts (that even so is a small number).

Now even when a account die the IP of creation get a higher risk score, example:
You did 3 accounts on IP X
1 die, IP X receive 1+ risk
2 die, IP X receive 2+ risk
3 die, IP X receive 3+ risk
That risk is the difference between creation a account and creating and instantly PV or even the "try again soon" (creation denied / block email and @)

Like I said I am in touch with people who are testing thousands and we agreed on that, I wasnt trully affected but even so I saw the change.

 

[Kgnkr]

Oh, but i just started a journey..; How unfortunate it is

 

[pballday]

Sorry to say, I have more than 2k accounts working and 1.5k that I use for testing with multiple providers, ipv6, ipv4 and 4g, almost every provider I have and I use different settings and I concluded the major change is real, I doesnt have to hear if it works for you or not IF you dont tested with atleast 350 accounts (that even so is a small number).

Now even when a account die the IP of creation get a higher risk score, example:
You did 3 accounts on IP X
1 die, IP X receive 1+ risk
2 die, IP X receive 2+ risk
3 die, IP X receive 3+ risk
That risk is the difference between creation a account and creating and instantly PV or even the "try again soon" (creation denied / block email and @)

Like I said I am in touch with people who are testing thousands and we agreed on that, I wasnt trully affected but even so I saw the change.

yup why would i even consider arguing with someone that knows it all already

 

[Kgnkr]

I ´d like to know what you found about 6k/30days theory with your research

 

[slickkilla]

This is correct and I've said it multiple times in other threads and if people read the Research paper written by a team over at Instagram and the University of California that was posted on the forums multiple times the last few weeks they would of seen that Instagram was coming up with the limits by seeing the amount of follows user do on the subnet. And then using the amount of follows done by the 25th percentile or 99th percentile depending if the Subnet is all automated traffic or a mix of automated and real users.

Here's the research paper
https://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~ldekoven/publications/following_their_footsteps.pdf
If to lazy to read then go to Section 6 which is all about how they intervened in folks automation.

 

[Alex Milenkowich]

yeah. all of this because of those shitheads who followed 1000 users per day and scammed the whole IG network. it was just a question of time,and it happened now.

 

[BrazilianBusinessman]

yup why would i even consider arguing with someone that knows it all already

My point isnt my individual thoughts but the resume of hundreds/thousands of tests on controlled scenarios + the shared knowledge of other farmers, you are not Reading my opinion but the Two cents of the real opinion of some Farmers
In a comparison you bought a bubble Gum and now claim all of them are clean, I am a bulk purchaser and I confirmed some are coming with Poison as a fact.
But then you insist that This is a lie because you luckily eat one Bubble Gum and are Alive
Read as a warning If you are New on This
They are going hard and the barriers are harder
If you doesnt have technical knowledge and money to burn on empíricas test feel Free to find other social plataform
I dont care If you become a Farmer or not, I a talking This based on average results that now are going much less in favor of a normal user of automation tools
Yes you can become a Guy like me who ascended from 40 to 100 than 400 than 1000 than 2000 than 3.000
But the chance of this happening is really low, I dont even know what would happen If I had to start today that many barriers are there and we dont even know them

Thanks for the bro who posted the link, Its hours since I did the post, maybe I do a New one with the link.

 

[GenesisOne]

This is correct and I've said it multiple times in other threads and if people read the Research paper written by a team over at Instagram and the University of California that was posted on the forums multiple times the last few weeks they would of seen that Instagram was coming up with the limits by seeing the amount of follows user do on the subnet. And then using the amount of follows done by the 25th percentile or 99th percentile depending if the Subnet is all automated traffic or a mix of automated and real users.

Here's the research paper
https://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~ldekoven/publications/following_their_footsteps.pdf
If to lazy to read then go to Section 6 which is all about how they intervened in folks automation.

Thanks for the share

yeah. all of this because of those shitheads who followed 1000 users per day and scammed the whole IG network. it was just a question of time,and it happened now.

Now we'll have to run 2 accounts to replace previous traffic. That's ok with me

 

[BrazilianBusinessman]

Thanks for the share



Now we'll have to run 2 accounts to replace previous traffic. That's ok with me

In my calculations 8.
4 will die after reprofile, 2 will die after starting to try to get them warmed and more 2 will survive.

 

[sw33]

Well, some guy hit me up with a blogspot from a worker of IG, I dont remember the link so take what I say with the least serious considerations you can.

Instead of purging settings A, B or C IG found a better way to purge/damage automation users.
What is the same thing we all share in common?

We have different settings
We have different ways to create profiles
We have different niches
We have different automation tools

But we share the commom resource that almost none normal user stay close...

Proxies.

Whatever is your setting, whatever is the tool, whatever account creation method we are share the network trait of using proxies.

Well, what they did?

Now lets say we have the Subnet A of a Provider Called SpartanProxies.
Spartan Proxies sell IPV4/IPV6, but as every proxy need a real device/connection to mirror we can say Spartan Proxies of Bingolingo country share usually the same ranges and subnet.
What IG did?
Now they analyze all the comming traffic and requests of every range/subnet, that in our cases is Spartan Proxies that comes from Bingolingo country.
Lets say we have 10 users connected to that specific subnet/range..
Now we can say that the Average number of Actions PER USER is equal to:
All Actions / (DIVIDED) by 10 = the formula is number of all actions /(divided) by number of users
What they are doing now, they take the 25% of the users that used the lower number of actions on that subnet, that in this case would be 2 user and half, and then they compare.
Action made by 25% of users /(divided) 2.5 users[on this case] and you have the number of actions of the lower percentage of users.

Then they compare that average number of actions of the lowest action users on that subnet to the average number of actions of the subnet and with your specific number of actions.

Lets say 10.000 actions were done by all 10 users combined, 10000/10= 1.000 Actions Per user
Lets say 1000 actions were done by 25% of users, 1000/2.5 (on this case) 400 actions per individual 25% of users

This means that if you did 1500 actions you are considered a high risk user of that subnet, if you did 200 you are considered a safe risk user of that subnet and so on..

What that means?
Now they cross your average number of actions and compare to the subnet number of actions PLUS the average number of that subnet and with the country/state average number and with IG limits.

Lets say your subnet only consist of automation users, the average number of actions is 9000 monthly, who would be something like 30 per day.
If you did less than that you could be considered a safe user of that subnet. but NOT A SAFE IG user because your actions crossed their limits.

This is why the 6k/30 days is flexible and why some user have been able to follow again after some days of no action (that they become part of the lower 25% of that subnet).

If someone find the link feel free to post and I Will Edit

Thank you for this information, it's really raw What do you think about those who keep average number of actions approx on 12 000 monthly, is this number too large, should we cut it down?

 

[Hoco]

This is an excellent post, thank you. I don't use proxies, but it's always good to know as I use automation to do my daily tasks.

Would be interesting based on this though, as surely large city's would have a higher tolerance to higher interactions (in theory)?

 

[BrazilianBusinessman]

Thank you for this information, it's really raw What do you think about those who keep average number of actions approx on 12 000 monthly, is this number too large, should we cut it down?

This is an excellent post, thank you. I don't use proxies, but it's always good to know as I use automation to do my daily tasks.

Would be interesting based on this though, as surely large city's would have a higher tolerance to higher interactions (in theory)?

If is working for you maybe you are out of radar (enjoy it), There is always a number of Lucky ones who can Go over all the limits we can think.about and stay safer than who respect that limit.

Yes, big city with bigger population means more usage, but isnt the same of higher limitis

 

[Alex Milenkowich]

hey guys. i have two accounts which are about 40 days old. im following about 100 people there. should i increase every day by 10 follows more until i reach 200? should i even go for 200? maybe i should keep it between 180-190

 

[riseNgrind]

Do you think following 50 accounts/day is in the tolerable range?

 

[Kgnkr]

Do you think following 50 accounts/day is in the tolerable range?

You should go 10 follow a day or you will get caught

 

[Badboy Enterprise]

After all that updates they finally found a way to reduce the bot users
this is like a direct shoot if you need to follow under 200 to stay safe

 

[chickab00m]

I recently created an account for a client's website. Used a VPN to setup the account thinking the few days of cookies on my browser would suffice for verifying that I wasn't a bot, spam, etc.

Banned. Immediately. I was never even able to log into the account–which is how I noticed the issue. A warning appeared when trying to login referring me to contact support.

So, my only option for recovery was reaching out to their support via a "mobile only" link. There I found a portal to submit my issue.

In order to even submit the request to lift my account ban, I had to either provide:
A. EIN/tax documents (my client was unlikely to send a copy)
B. proof of business location (there isn't one yet)
C. provide proof of ownership for a 'business domain.'

I chose the latter option despite it being fairly vague using my namecheap purchase receipts including the business owners name, the same name used to buy the domain and create the IG account.

A couple days went by and Instagram was a ghost town. No confirmation email about my request, not even to let me know that they received the form. Plus, I was unable to create another account with the banned handle.

FINALLY, on the third day I received an email letting me know that the account has been reinstated. No reason for the ban was provided.


Bottom Line:
If you're creating a spam account, do the steps up front to make your account appear to be connected to a business. If you're creating a business account, save a copy of all your paper work and receipts for domains and other online assets–you will need them!

 

[Kgnkr]

I recently created an account for a client's website. Used a VPN to setup the account thinking the few days of cookies on my browser would suffice for verifying that I wasn't a bot, spam, etc.

Banned. Immediately. I was never even able to log into the account–which is how I noticed the issue. A warning appeared when trying to login referring me to contact support.

So, my only option for recovery was reaching out to their support via a "mobile only" link. There I found a portal to submit my issue.

In order to even submit the request to lift my account ban, I had to either provide:
A. EIN/tax documents (my client was unlikely to send a copy)
B. proof of business location (there isn't one yet)
C. provide proof of ownership for a 'business domain.'

I chose the latter option despite it being fairly vague using my namecheap purchase receipts including the business owners name, the same name used to buy the domain and create the IG account.

A couple days went by and Instagram was a ghost town. No confirmation email about my request, not even to let me know that they received the form. Plus, I was unable to create another account with the banned handle.

FINALLY, on the third day I received an email letting me know that the account has been reinstated. No reason for the ban was provided.


Bottom Line:
If you're creating a spam account, do the steps up front to make your account appear to be connected to a business. If you're creating a business account, save a copy of all your paper work and receipts for domains and other online assets–you will need them!

How many follower had the account and did you create an account with vps ip ?