How to use a free trial Software "forever" without cracks

[deal with it]

i used to change date on my pc worked for some softwares. This is how i ended up in IM, coz i can think like this.

 

[Frenzied]

How so, either you block use of VM's which would also block people using VPS's (as most are vm's) or you don't. If the IP is unique and the VM is a clean install you can't find shit

I invite you to try it

Ask for a free trial on my thread

 

[Brickbat1]

I invite you to try it

Ask for a free trial on my thread

I am taking up the challenge .... provide a few hours trial of your software lets test this... Its either your sofware wont work on VMs at all which would be shooting yourself in the leg, or if it works in the VM, this would work on it......which option does your software fall into?


PS: I just requested a trial on your thread for this "test".... Let it be short lived trial..,one or two hours..... but before w go ahead, let us know if your software does not work in a VM.

My challenge is that if it works one time in a VM, you cant prevent using a fresh trial download with fresh registration ids/ip from working on a clean VM install. You can prevent reinstallation of the initial file downloaded but not a fresh file with fresh details....as long as the software works on a VM.

 

[Aaric]

I don't get it.... except there is some machine fingerprint of the vm that remains after it is deleted, it is impossible to detect... except you did something wrong....if you restore snapshot, yes you can be picked up because the MAC address is still the same... but if you delete and reinstall vm, the only trail you have left is your ip range which you can easily change at the point of check (installing the program)....its foolproof to me....if you know a software that picks the vm out, i will like to test that....i can't see how they can pick it because the vm is abstracted from the main OS.

Useful information buddy. on SSD windows takes few minutes to get installed. So do not really need to restore.

 

[awakened]

Nice post, OP. I've actually been doing this for a while now, haha.

 

[Aaric]

How so, either you block use of VM's which would also block people using VPS's (as most are vm's) or you don't. If the IP is unique and the VM is a clean install you can't find shit

Graphic processor, Network adopter vendor.

 

[Frenzied]

I am taking up the challenge .... provide a few hours trial of your software lets test this... Its either your sofware wont work on VMs at all which would be shooting yourself in the leg, or if it works in the VM, this would work on it......which option does your software fall into?


PS: I just requested a trial on your thread for this "test".... Let it be short lived trial..,one or two hours..... but before w go ahead, let us know if your software does not work in a VM.

My challenge is that if it works one time in a VM, you cant prevent using a fresh trial download with fresh registration ids/ip from working on a clean VM install. You can prevent reinstallation of the initial file downloaded but not a fresh file with fresh details....as long as the software works on a VM.

The software works on a VM bud

 

[Brickbat1]

The software works on a VM bud

Aha....so let the test begin...send me access to your software and how to download it..

 

[jsalima]

I don't get it.... except there is some machine fingerprint of the vm that remains after it is deleted, it is impossible to detect... except you did something wrong....if you restore snapshot, yes you can be picked up because the MAC address is still the same... but if you delete and reinstall vm, the only trail you have left is your ip range which you can easily change at the point of check (installing the program)....its foolproof to me....if you know a software that picks the vm out, i will like to test that....i can't see how they can pick it because the vm is abstracted from the main OS.

Yes I don't understand either. I tried using a VM before and the software detected it and would not install. So I am not so sure this works with everything, but it shoul dwork for some (most?) software.

I figure if I have tried it and I need/want/like/use it and no more trials then I will pay for it - fair enough.

Cheers =)

 

[Frenzied]

Aha....so let the test begin...send me access to your software and how to download it..

Processing trials tomorrow, just saying you're wasting your time.

 

[Brickbat1]

Graphic processor, Network adopter vendor.

Ahhh.....dejavu...

Yes I don't understand either. I tried using a VM before and the software detected it and would not install. So I am not so sure this works with everything, but it shoul dwork for some (most?) software.

I figure if I have tried it and I need/want/like/use it and no more trials then I will pay for it - fair enough.

Cheers =)

Yes, someone said here earlier that VMs can be detected and he explained how...he also said , even the detection can be spoofed if you know how....well I don't know how, I am not a core programmer.

So any software taking that route will really have to be so good that users will be willing to put up with being forced to not run it on a vps in the face of competing products that allow VPS's.

But if it can run on a VM, then a clean install VM, clean ip/account ids will be enough for most.....but for the smarter ones, might need to go a little higher to spoof fresh VM machine hardware IDs with regedit...

Rethinking this thread, I can see it might be unnerving for software vendors here that offer free trials. Maybe I should'nt have started the thread.....

 

[pressrelease]

In old days by changing time back to install date also worked.

 

[Frenzied]

Ahhh.....dejavu...

Rethinking this thread, I can see it might be unnerving for software vendors here that offer free trials. Maybe I should'nt have started the thread.....

"unnerving "

hahahaha

why do you think you're some sort of reverse engineer? any software that checks system settings for trial expiry dates is out of their mind.

hope in a couple years you look back at this thread and wish you'd never posted it. so embarrassing...

 

[DigitalWizard]

I don't get it.... except there is some machine fingerprint of the vm that remains after it is deleted, it is impossible to detect... except you did something wrong....if you restore snapshot, yes you can be picked up because the MAC address is still the same... but if you delete and reinstall vm, the only trail you have left is your ip range which you can easily change at the point of check (installing the program)....its foolproof to me....if you know a software that picks the vm out, i will like to test that....i can't see how they can pick it because the vm is abstracted from the main OS.

Corporate Sys Admin here - It is not even near impossible to detect, pretty easy actually. Especially if you are using the more common application for VMs such as Hyper-V (which is built into windows). Regardless, not sure why you'd suggest others to download additional software when one comes with Windows.

(and no you cannot spoof it unless you figure out a way to change the way processors, memory, etc, are virtualized and labeled via VM applications lol)

 

[Brickbat1]

"unnerving "

hahahaha

why do you think you're some sort of reverse engineer? any software that checks system settings for trial expiry dates is out of their mind.

hope in a couple years you look back at this thread and wish you'd never posted it. so embarrassing...

Oh well, fun while it lasts, where it works...

Naaa...told ya...aint no programmer..but at least we established one thing... block VMs entirely or it might be possible to use and re use trials... Anyway, it will be fun to see how it goes with your trial since you were bold enough to invite us to try....

..just might shock you

 

[MrRandQm]

Graphic processor, Network adopter vendor.

Virtual adapters will bypass this easily, not sure how a graphic processor could be a footprint. Not really relevant either as the point I'm making is that if you stop people from using a VM you also stop people using VPS

 

[Herion]

Corporate Sys Admin here - It is not even near impossible to detect, pretty easy actually. Especially if you are using the more common application for VMs such as Hyper-V (which is built into windows). Regardless, not sure why you'd suggest others to download additional software when one comes with Windows.

(and no you cannot spoof it unless you figure out a way to change the way processors, memory, etc, are virtualized and labeled via VM applications lol)

The point is to change what data the application receives.

Virtual adapters will bypass this easily, not sure how a graphic processor could be a footprint. Not really relevant either as the point I'm making is that if you stop people from using a VM you also stop people using VPS

A simple example would be checking for the additional software that virtualbox and vmware install on the guest OS.

 

[rafark]

To the posters above me: if a single user goes to that length and doesn't use too much bandwith, then we, as developers shouldn't care. 99% of users won't bother doing all of that, and spending too many resources to protect us from that 1 - 0.5% is not prouductive.

 

[Abhinav kumar]

Is there any method to do this with android apps?

 

[nincyface]

I wish this kind of thing would work on online subscriptions too.