I suspect that our bots are leaving footprints

[maidanez]

Why am I able to post a picture with my phone that uses the same wifi and not with Jarvee?

If you're on the same wifi then the IP address is the same, and the bot is leaving footprints that instagram are detecting. However instagram would be able to identify if you are on a 3g/4g network if they really wanted to and potentially relax some ban constraints. You can buy services that list IPs and whether they are business IPs, client IPs, what company provides them and from that list you should be able to narrow down to phone providers.

 

[rootjazz]

If you're on the same wifi then the IP address is the same, and the bot is leaving footprints that instagram are detecting. However instagram would be able to identify if you are on a 3g/4g network if they really wanted to and potentially relax some ban constraints. You can buy services that list IPs and whether they are business IPs, client IPs, what company provides them and from that list you should be able to narrow down to phone providers.

Could be a device pattern id, try and regenerate it which should generate a new phone device pattern and a unique user Id

 

[maidanez]

Could be a device pattern id, try and regenerate it which should generate a new phone device pattern and a unique user Id

My point was the phone can't do anything special that you can't do with a bot over wifi that I'm aware of. You may be able to reproduce the phone's actions via an android emulator operating on the same network assuming instagram doesn't log something specific to the emulator. That would then imply that there are footprints that instagram are tracking in the http headers if you get banned on desktop but not phone on the same network.

 

[sking12]

The amount of things Jravee is doing that can be detected as bot is alot!
Just scraping tthe instagram web with your user token and filtering 1000's of users data with this account is susspicius.
I build my own bot, I use fake accounts for scrapping.
BTW 90% of blocks is ip (in my experiance)

 

[klique]

Bots per se are not the problem. People abusing them are. Do you think ISG really care that some businesses use bots to reply to new followers? Or reply to DMs, or to scrape potential customers? No. What they DO care about is people using fake accounts to promote some CPA offer, some webcam PPS or whatever who spam out to all and sundry, run follow / like campaigns pushing to limits, those who leaving annoying spam like comments on any and every post, those who degrade the service for others. That is what ISG care about and want to stop.

At the end of the day, ISG could block all bots over night. Sure they might get a few real accounts caught in the net, but they could wipe out 100% of bots with just a tiny 0.001% or less of real accounts. They don't, because they know there are lots of real users using them in a responsible way.

There are as many different types of bot users as there are types of real user. Not every bot user is some blackhat spammer trying to push some aff offer .


imo, that is

This sums everything up in a nutshell. The reason people blame bots is because its easier to put the blame on something or someone, rather than taking responsibility for your own actions.

I automate a pretty large network, and I can actually say my PVs and EVs are at an all time low in compared to a couple months ago. I usually get an EV when adding account to proxy, and that's it.

People try and complete too many actions hourly and daily, and then complain when they get banned. Yes, you might of been able to do it a year ago or a few months ago.. but you need to learn to adapt to changes. If you're performing 150 actions every hour and 1000 actions a day, do you not expect to eventually get banned?

Mix a little common sense, with responsible automation settings and you'll be just fine. Continue to listen to people who are telling you its safe to follow 800 people, and like 500 people, while unfollowing another 500 people and sending 100 DMs a day, and you're going to get what you deserve.

Edit:
One last thing, I notice some people dont think proxies are a problem. I've done hours, days and weeks of testing, and I can say with 100% certainty that the proxy/ip you use, along with the quality of the account(method it was made with along with the proxy/ip used to make it) + your account settings will be the deciding variable whether and when you'll be getting verifications consistently.

There are alot of sellers, and even some on here that are selling poorly created accounts, as well as people selling accounts that were used in their smm panels(for mass actions), so while you think you're getting an account that's been aged and just sitting that's not always the case. Sometimes these accounts have already been abused. How do I know? Because a seller had already admitted this to me after I bought some accounts in bulk, and they were already permanently follow blocked.

So do your due diligence before buying accounts in bulk, so that way you can save yourself a headache in the long run.

 

[chikri]

I'm sorry but you shouldn't be recommending people something when you clearly don't have the necessary experience. If you had, you would know botting is worth it. Myself and many other on this forum are making money through botting, just because it isn't easy doesn't mean it isn't possible.

whats the point if they arent real people and are all bots and when ur bots stop working ur page is dead

 

[belg]

whats the point if they arent real people and are all bots and when ur bots stop working ur page is dead

You clearly don't understand what the bots are used for. The bots are not used to make your feed look alive, they are used to make sales lmao.

 

[superslikuzi]

I have been botting for a long time and am facing no issues atm that are any bigger then they were a year ago.

what program?

 

[PHPInjected]

Two good rules to follow with social media accounts:
1 proxy/IP per account.
Never login in except on that proxy/IP for anything.

With a good proxy provider and purchased in bulk, this is easily doable.

 

[ilovetobun69]

This sums everything up in a nutshell. The reason people blame bots is because its easier to put the blame on something or someone, rather than taking responsibility for your own actions.

I automate a pretty large network, and I can actually say my PVs and EVs are at an all time low in compared to a couple months ago. I usually get an EV when adding account to proxy, and that's it.

People try and complete too many actions hourly and daily, and then complain when they get banned. Yes, you might of been able to do it a year ago or a few months ago.. but you need to learn to adapt to changes. If you're performing 150 actions every hour and 1000 actions a day, do you not expect to eventually get banned?

Mix a little common sense, with responsible automation settings and you'll be just fine. Continue to listen to people who are telling you its safe to follow 800 people, and like 500 people, while unfollowing another 500 people and sending 100 DMs a day, and you're going to get what you deserve.

Edit:
One last thing, I notice some people dont think proxies are a problem. I've done hours, days and weeks of testing, and I can say with 100% certainty that the proxy/ip you use, along with the quality of the account(method it was made with along with the proxy/ip used to make it) + your account settings will be the deciding variable whether and when you'll be getting verifications consistently.

There are alot of sellers, and even some on here that are selling poorly created accounts, as well as people selling accounts that were used in their smm panels(for mass actions), so while you think you're getting an account that's been aged and just sitting that's not always the case. Sometimes these accounts have already been abused. How do I know? Because a seller had already admitted this to me after I bought some accounts in bulk, and they were already permanently follow blocked.

So do your due diligence before buying accounts in bulk, so that way you can save yourself a headache in the long run.

Yup...I was fine till I followed the same day as dming .instagram definally is getting more strict. I miss when you could dm 500 people a hour .

 

[BetterKnow]

I think today, bot makers have a lot of caching up to do, especially with new technology such as typing biometrics and finger printing it'll be a rough ride.

 

[Jagadeeshkumar08]

I think urs is a public account of 700k,
I think ur using IP address has been know to some other