naughtynewell
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- Mar 24, 2013
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Riiiiiight.
So after like, fifteen of these 'journey' threads. Here goes another one! I've been on this site for a long time now, and have seen countless threads come and go that have failed, some of mine included. I've built custom pieces of software that have gone unused, and just in general put in a lot of time and haven't seen any ROI on that time spent.
I think the process of failing multiple times has really made me ask a few questions about doing black hat work - whether I think it's really worth it, and what are the goals that I should set myself going forwards if I decide to continue.
The answer to the first question is:
"Yes, I want to continue doing BH stuff, it's worth it if you get the balance right."
The second question answer:
"Create something that people visit, use and interact with."
I have written this down and stuck it to my monitor. I want to really take a big step away from being income focussed, I think it is seriously detrimental to any venture that me, or anyone goes on. Having an income stream is nice, don't get my wrong, but plastering a website with ads, fake content lockers & all sorts of income crap is just not going to see any sort of money coming in. Making the income a secondary goal means I'm going to stay focussed on provided a service to my users that is something that they're going to want to come back to.
A little bit more on the first question. I think a lot of the reason why so many attempts at building something have failed for me and probably for a lot of you is that we set out with the best of intentions about investing time and effort into making it work. But it gets a few days, or even weeks in and the effort is still high, the time required is still high, but the response and user interaction is low to none, so we give up.
What if we could make that equation more level? time + effort = user interaction.
So, that's where my latest idea spawned from.
I've been around the "Porn upload" method for a long time, and being a programmer, have built so many different things that start really well but fizzle out as I don't tend to invest too much money (read none) in to my adventures.
Uploading porn is very manual when you don't have the software, hardware or time to put into sourcing good videos, spending time uploading to n number of sites and then a/b testing for if your account gets blocked or not.
So - I decided to go in a different direction. A tube site of my very own - but I gave myself a single very strong caveat. I can't do anything manually in respect to content. Everything needs to be done through a server side script or program.
My foundation is Wordpress, which is lucky, because there is the wp-cli. A command line interface that if you're a Wordpress user, you really should know how to use. It provides a huge amount of flexibility with it's functions and makes bulk creation / editing / deleting of posts & more a breeze.
After sorting out WP on my server (AWS for anyone wondering) I spent a little bit of cash on a decent theme (I know, breaking the bank. -$50.). I've also signed up to respective affiliate programs from Chaturbate, JuicyAds & CrakRevenue and been accepted into all of them.
Finally I went about how to source my content. Something that I'm not really at liberty to divulge right now, but suffice to say I'm not embedding, nor am I storing the video files myself. It's a third option that hasn't been done (afaik) yet.
I wrote a little bash script that would build a series of commands issued to wp cli that inserted the posts and scheduled them at 15 minute intervals. I also built two recipes on IFTTT.com which post to a subreddit that I've made and a twitter account. Finally - I started the script up on my teeny little aws server.
It's been ~2 days of new post creation and we're here:
Buuuut, we've got another 57,345 new posts to go before we've finished with all the commands in my master file.
In terms of income, I'm not really looking at that. Once I've gotten all the posts into Wordpress I'm going to go through and (programatically) add tags to all of them based on some random factors.
Finally I'm going to see if there is a simple way I can "Generate" meta descriptions of all of the videos & make sure that I'm going to be able to rank well in Google results for various long tail keywords.
I'll sorta give a simple breakdown of costs & anything else interesting that has happened. Don't expect frequent updates, but expect updates.
---
Costs: $50 (wordpress theme)
Posts Made: 18,080
Posts To Make: 57,345.
Posts created by hand: 0
Fucks given: 0
So after like, fifteen of these 'journey' threads. Here goes another one! I've been on this site for a long time now, and have seen countless threads come and go that have failed, some of mine included. I've built custom pieces of software that have gone unused, and just in general put in a lot of time and haven't seen any ROI on that time spent.
I think the process of failing multiple times has really made me ask a few questions about doing black hat work - whether I think it's really worth it, and what are the goals that I should set myself going forwards if I decide to continue.
The answer to the first question is:
"Yes, I want to continue doing BH stuff, it's worth it if you get the balance right."
The second question answer:
"Create something that people visit, use and interact with."
I have written this down and stuck it to my monitor. I want to really take a big step away from being income focussed, I think it is seriously detrimental to any venture that me, or anyone goes on. Having an income stream is nice, don't get my wrong, but plastering a website with ads, fake content lockers & all sorts of income crap is just not going to see any sort of money coming in. Making the income a secondary goal means I'm going to stay focussed on provided a service to my users that is something that they're going to want to come back to.
A little bit more on the first question. I think a lot of the reason why so many attempts at building something have failed for me and probably for a lot of you is that we set out with the best of intentions about investing time and effort into making it work. But it gets a few days, or even weeks in and the effort is still high, the time required is still high, but the response and user interaction is low to none, so we give up.
What if we could make that equation more level? time + effort = user interaction.
So, that's where my latest idea spawned from.
I've been around the "Porn upload" method for a long time, and being a programmer, have built so many different things that start really well but fizzle out as I don't tend to invest too much money (read none) in to my adventures.
Uploading porn is very manual when you don't have the software, hardware or time to put into sourcing good videos, spending time uploading to n number of sites and then a/b testing for if your account gets blocked or not.
So - I decided to go in a different direction. A tube site of my very own - but I gave myself a single very strong caveat. I can't do anything manually in respect to content. Everything needs to be done through a server side script or program.
My foundation is Wordpress, which is lucky, because there is the wp-cli. A command line interface that if you're a Wordpress user, you really should know how to use. It provides a huge amount of flexibility with it's functions and makes bulk creation / editing / deleting of posts & more a breeze.
After sorting out WP on my server (AWS for anyone wondering) I spent a little bit of cash on a decent theme (I know, breaking the bank. -$50.). I've also signed up to respective affiliate programs from Chaturbate, JuicyAds & CrakRevenue and been accepted into all of them.
Finally I went about how to source my content. Something that I'm not really at liberty to divulge right now, but suffice to say I'm not embedding, nor am I storing the video files myself. It's a third option that hasn't been done (afaik) yet.
I wrote a little bash script that would build a series of commands issued to wp cli that inserted the posts and scheduled them at 15 minute intervals. I also built two recipes on IFTTT.com which post to a subreddit that I've made and a twitter account. Finally - I started the script up on my teeny little aws server.
It's been ~2 days of new post creation and we're here:
Buuuut, we've got another 57,345 new posts to go before we've finished with all the commands in my master file.
In terms of income, I'm not really looking at that. Once I've gotten all the posts into Wordpress I'm going to go through and (programatically) add tags to all of them based on some random factors.
Finally I'm going to see if there is a simple way I can "Generate" meta descriptions of all of the videos & make sure that I'm going to be able to rank well in Google results for various long tail keywords.
I'll sorta give a simple breakdown of costs & anything else interesting that has happened. Don't expect frequent updates, but expect updates.
---
Costs: $50 (wordpress theme)
Posts Made: 18,080
Posts To Make: 57,345.
Posts created by hand: 0
Fucks given: 0
