How to spot scammers on BHW

[almanula]

I don't know if anyone has noticed that marketplace posts are filled with scams and lies...

I have noticed the following:

1. A newbie making orders and posting order ID after every 2 days
2. The same newbie giving good reviews
3. The same newbie asking questions about the service and promising to make an order.
4. A sales thread without reviews yet so many people asked for review copies.

Have you noticed these trends, maybe share others so you can help someone.

 

[alice252293]

I only buy things on here from Jr VIP members.

 

[blogzandstuff]

I only buy things on here from Jr VIP members.

That because you can only buy from Jr VIP or marketplace sellers.

 

[Deleted member 923340]

I only buy things on here from Jr VIP members.

Those BST's can only be from JrVIP members

Edit: @blogzandstuff beat me to it

 

[alice252293]

That because you can only buy from Jr VIP or marketplace sellers.

marketplace I think so
At least if they scam me a hundred bucks, their accounts will be banned.

 

[almanula]

Some of them have found ingenious ways of making sales

 

[damagesmith]

The Way I buy is like this.
I follow A few members who I trust. So If I see them rebuying a product
I will take that as a positive sign.

On the other Hand if all the reviews are from newbies or even members who I dont "recognize" on my trust Radar
I tend to be more cautious. Not a perfect method but its something.

 

[MisterF]

I don't know if anyone has noticed that marketplace posts are filled with scams and lies...

I have noticed the following:

1. A newbie making orders and posting order ID after every 2 days; No rule broken there.

2. The same newbie giving good reviews ; If the buyer and review is genuine, again no rule broken there.

3. The same newbie asking questions about the service and promising to make an order. So yet again no rule broken


4. A sales thread without reviews yet so many people asked for review copies. Rule is broken - if seller doesn't offer reviews, click the report button if they're asking for non existant review copies and we can issue a warning

Have you noticed these trends, maybe share others so you can help someone.

Finally if you have grounds and proof there are shill accounts, report them and we will check them out.

 

[awesomewebsites]

The problem OP is mentioning here is use of newbie accounts to bump sale threads in form of fake orders/ reviews. Initial comments address a different concern.

 

[m0neym0ney]

Yep, I certainly did. Although I'm a blackhat newbie, it really doesn't take a lot to get a sense of the shady business that goes on around here. I mean don't get me wrong there are helpful people and useful resources on here but this is blackhat after all. You're dealing with people doing sketchy things, of course you can expect you're being blackhatted in blackhat website itself.

 

[awesomewebsites]

You're dealing with people doing sketchy things, of course you can expect you're being blackhatted in blackhat website itself.

Of hundreds of deals I had done here, I have had 1-2 bad cases. Do not judge this forum by name only.

 

[TheUnborn]

I always buy with due-diligence, you will observe that some popular BST gets orders several times per day, with great reviews and the users are either from 2011,2013 with 5 -10 post only, etc or created accounts few weeks, or month ago. I always buy from members I trust, follow them, or check each BST reviews up to 10-20 pages before purchasing.

Now its your money, your choice, so always take time to read reviews before buying

 

[MisterF]

The problem OP is mentioning here is use of newbie accounts to bump sale threads in form of fake orders/ reviews. Initial comments address a different concern.

If people have proof of this, report them - simple.

 

[m0neym0ney]

Finally if you have grounds and proof there are shill accounts, report them and we will check them out.

What about common sense? Isn't that enough proof? I mean 2 days old account with zero comments jumps in and buy a $100 service, that's classic shilling. You don't just join a blackhat forum and burn $100 on day one.

 

[awesomewebsites]

What about common sense? Isn't that enough proof? I mean 2 days old account with zero comments jumps in and buy a $100 service, that's obvious shilling . You don't just join a blackhat forum and blow $100 on day one.

Not necessary. I have had a new member buy services worth $1000 or more in few days of joining. Some members join for a specific service only.

 

[MisterF]

What about common sense? Isn't that enough proof? I mean 2 days old account with zero comments jumps in and buy a $100 service, that's classic shilling. You don't just join a blackhat forum and burn $100 on day one.

The marketplace isn't hidden, you can buy without being a member. So if the seller has asked the buyer to leave a review in their communication......

 

[TheUnborn]

Not necessary. I have had a new member buy services worth $1000 or more in few days of joining. Some members join for a specific service only.

I agree, someone may be looking for seo services and landed here. created an account and ordered, but some popular BST ,there seems to be a pattern going on, members with very few post, aged accounts or new account purchasing everyday.

 

[mickyfu]

Of hundreds of deals I had done here, I have had 1-2 bad cases. Do not judge this forum by name only.

I actually find that hard to believe. Cause I've bought many and had many bad cases.

You must be lucky.

 

[ScribScribScrib]

Op is talking about the bot accounts running rampant in the marketplace, not human scammers in themselves

He's calling out the sellers as the ones scamming as they use shill accounts to keep their services on top of the marketplace

 

[awesomewebsites]

I actually find that hard to believe. Cause I've bought many and had many bad cases.
You must be lucky.

I am mostly on the selling side.For buying, I have limited people with whom I am dealing for years.