GSA Website Contact - Automatically Send Your Product/Service to 1,000's of Contact Forms (Discount)

and yes for anyone thinking what to use this for, this is similar to cold calling. You dont cold call a business and try to hard sell them. This is great for making strategic partnerships/ getting press IMO. Direct selling doubt this will ever make you $1.
 
and yes for anyone thinking what to use this for, this is similar to cold calling. You dont cold call a business and try to hard sell them. This is great for making strategic partnerships/ getting press IMO. Direct selling doubt this will ever make you $1.

You would be wrong....
 
I have a view questions

3) Is it possible to just show the name of the account and not the complete url as it makes the email itself look messy

like https://instagram.com/bhw becomes bhw or https://facebook.com/bhw also becomes bhw

Thanks

This can be done now in the latest update by adding "id" to the end of the token like %facebookid%, %twitterid%, etc.


This doesn't seem to be an issue and noone has reported any problems with it.

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Latest update

1.98 - new: macros %facebookid% %twitterid%.... who only use the ID not the full URL
 
I have a question for you if you're using this... i have a concern. Are you submitting with the same email and web url to ALL of these sites? How can that get through to mail providers? Are you hitting spam? My thought is if i get 10,000 emails pushed through to 10,000 sites in 1 hour with mike@webuildwebsites .com how can they not be hitting spam?

I haven't had anyone reporting any issues with this.
 
1) Hmm, not sure exactly what you mean. A basic example would be, "I can help you grow your %twitter% followers". You just drop the macro in as shown on the submission content tab at the bottom.

2) It replaces it with the word so %twitter% would just turn into twitter, but with the social media column, you can choose to only send messages to accounts that have social media present.

3) Currently not possible since it's handled automatically, but I can run this idea by Sven.

4) It should already do that when you click the big save/export button on the main UI. If you click the little down arrow next to the save/export button it will give you the option to only export websites. I click the big export button, then I save as a csv and open in excel. All columns are there including social media accounts.



No, this software will never scrape Emails because there was a software we sold that did this before and it caused a lot of issues with Spamhaus.

@s4nt0s would you be able to suggest us some ideas how to make money with this tool? I have been using it for a while with cpa offers but no luck at all...

As someone else mentioned, you will have to think outside the box and offer something of value. Spamming affiliate/CPA offers to contact forms most likely isn't going to yield very good results. If you offer a service that provides value to local business owners, you could use this tool to reach out to them in mass. You can use it to try and build a list by sending them to an opt-in page first, then marketing to them via the list (you will need to offer something of value)

There's probably a million way you can use this tool. For example, if you partnered with someone or a service that makes cool explainer/commercial type videos that local business owners might like for advertising their business, that's something they might find interesting.

There's a lot of examples that could be given, but it doesn't matter because it's not just about the idea, its how you go about executing it. You have to be creative, think outside the box and offer something of value.

@loopline - Seems to have figured it out, I won't go into details because that's his business and I'm not sure how much he would want to share, but he's definitely doing pretty good with it. ;)

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Latest updates:

1.97 - fix: issue with manual submission and captcha images not being displayed
- new: improved support for jotforms
- new: support for kontactr
- new: support for foxyform[/QUOTE]

Ive tried B2C, converesions are terrible.

Ive tried affiliate stuff, and conversions are somewhere between terrible and poor on most things. If you get a really good offer that fits that has the right landing page, you can make a little money here. Think perhaps enough to break even on server, proxy etc... costs. Maybe enough, or maybe not even enough.

I make all my profit working with businesses that have a great sales person/team and funnel in place. I have businesses that cant' close, and I send them traffic all day and they don't close anything and I quit working with them.

I have some businesses that close ok, and thats fine.

I have some busiensses that started out with this and didnt' close but they kept changing their approach even their product and are now starting to close and look to be able to close decently in time.

I have some businesses that are rock stars and I make the bulk of my profit from these.

The 1 thing I have not tested is, if I have my own product. So lets say I am a company that creates those cool explainer videos that S4NT0S was talking about. Well if its my product, then I stand to make a higher profit margin of course, but I have to deal with sales, and delivery and all that.

All my products I own are really niche, like scrapebox or GSA SER verified / auto approve lists etc.. So sending that to the masses, makes no sense. So since I don;t have a product and frankly don't want really to create one, then the above is my approach and scaling real world businesses that can sell is where I put the lions share of my effort.

That said, finding businesses that want to do this sort of marketing, well some will some won't have the stomach for it.

Finding ones that can get 1 or 2 of the needed components, like build a good lander, or get a good funnel or close sales etc... and that want to do it, thats even harder.

Finding the gems that have everything together or are willing to work on it till they do and that want to do it, thats the really hard part.

Also it takes time. Im just about to start testing with 1 business that I talked to back in January. Sometimes people aren't ready, so you have to treat it like a real world busienss, with lots and lots of work. This is not a get rich and buy and island by next week kind of thing. Its not even get enough money consistently coming that you can live off of it by next month kind of thing.

Ive tested contact form marketing off and on since 2015. I got serious about it at the end of 2017 in December and Ive been putting a lot of effort into this year. Im 8 months in and while Im making solid money, its not enough for me to live off of yet. (Mind you "life off of" for me with a disabled wife and 4 kids etc... maybe somewhat or significantly higher then what you might need. I mean if I was single with no kids.. I guess Im still not where I could "live" off of it comfortably, but by years end Ill be at that point).


I think you need to first challenge your own statement. If I have 10 million contact forms how do you "know" that "most" people send contact forms to their yahoo or gmail?

I would say a majority of companies, that are more then 1 man teams, will use an email thats @Their-domain.com for email because thats just more professional then gmail.

Do people use gmail, sure, do "most" people, I would guess no.

But regardless some will, so there is an overall speed metric. If I go too fast, my click thru rate goes down, and its the same offer with the exact same message and url, so its obviously less getting delivered. So you just have to find your sweet spot.

I would bet mail filters will more heavily filter a bitly url then a regular domain. I feel like I tested this at some level, but I don't have any data in front of me to say for sure.

At the end of the day I can drive thousands of visitors with contact form marketing so if you lose X worth, so be it. You just need to do some basic testing to find the sweet spot that you don't lose more then you need to and then worry about the ones you do get to click thru.
 
Thanks, i just saw the update, this is going to make me a lot of money :D :D


This can be done now in the latest update by adding "id" to the end of the token like %facebookid%, %twitterid%, etc.



This doesn't seem to be an issue and noone has reported any problems with it.

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Latest update

1.98 - new: macros %facebookid% %twitterid%.... who only use the ID not the full URL
 
Right now i am testing an affiliate product for e-commerce stores, build a small review site with 3 reviews of different products in the same niche added 10 PLR articles and a free video course that i bought the PLR from for list building...

Site is up for 3 days have 200 signups for my list and 4 sales, i know it isn't much but encouraging, if you think outside the box you will make money with this, i do and i am no the sharpest knife in the drawer by any stretch
 
Right now i am testing an affiliate product for e-commerce stores, build a small review site with 3 reviews of different products in the same niche added 10 PLR articles and a free video course that i bought the PLR from for list building...

Site is up for 3 days have 200 signups for my list and 4 sales, i know it isn't much but encouraging, if you think outside the box you will make money with this, i do and i am no the sharpest knife in the drawer by any stretch
So you did 4 sales and i would be wrong? I come from the world of people who are already making real money, 4 sales literally not getting me out of bed in the morning, nor worth anyones time. As i said, this tool is just common sense what to use it for, direct sales is not that, it can be leveraged much smarter... for communication, strategic partnerships and PR.
 
Right.... im sure you're building a huge company direct selling via contact forms lol.

Yes i did, i make around 10K a month with just my IG growing service, i don't know if that is big enough for you but it is sure as hell big enough for me.

And yes you would be wrong, my advice to you is to move on to the next shiny object as you don't see opportunities when it is pissing you in the face (-_-)

Have a nice weekend.
 
As someone else mentioned, you will have to think outside the box and offer something of value. Spamming affiliate/CPA offers to contact forms most likely isn't going to yield very good results. If you offer a service that provides value to local business owners, you could use this tool to reach out to them in mass. You can use it to try and build a list by sending them to an opt-in page first, then marketing to them via the list (you will need to offer something of value)

There's probably a million way you can use this tool. For example, if you partnered with someone or a service that makes cool explainer/commercial type videos that local business owners might like for advertising their business, that's something they might find interesting.

There's a lot of examples that could be given, but it doesn't matter because it's not just about the idea, its how you go about executing it. You have to be creative, think outside the box and offer something of value.

@loopline - Seems to have figured it out, I won't go into details because that's his business and I'm not sure how much he would want to share, but he's definitely doing pretty good with it. ;)

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Latest updates:

1.97 - fix: issue with manual submission and captcha images not being displayed
- new: improved support for jotforms
- new: support for kontactr
- new: support for foxyform

Ive tried B2C, converesions are terrible.

Ive tried affiliate stuff, and conversions are somewhere between terrible and poor on most things. If you get a really good offer that fits that has the right landing page, you can make a little money here. Think perhaps enough to break even on server, proxy etc... costs. Maybe enough, or maybe not even enough.

I make all my profit working with businesses that have a great sales person/team and funnel in place. I have businesses that cant' close, and I send them traffic all day and they don't close anything and I quit working with them.

I have some businesses that close ok, and thats fine.

I have some busiensses that started out with this and didnt' close but they kept changing their approach even their product and are now starting to close and look to be able to close decently in time.

I have some businesses that are rock stars and I make the bulk of my profit from these.

The 1 thing I have not tested is, if I have my own product. So lets say I am a company that creates those cool explainer videos that S4NT0S was talking about. Well if its my product, then I stand to make a higher profit margin of course, but I have to deal with sales, and delivery and all that.

All my products I own are really niche, like scrapebox or GSA SER verified / auto approve lists etc.. So sending that to the masses, makes no sense. So since I don;t have a product and frankly don't want really to create one, then the above is my approach and scaling real world businesses that can sell is where I put the lions share of my effort.

That said, finding businesses that want to do this sort of marketing, well some will some won't have the stomach for it.

Finding ones that can get 1 or 2 of the needed components, like build a good lander, or get a good funnel or close sales etc... and that want to do it, thats even harder.

Finding the gems that have everything together or are willing to work on it till they do and that want to do it, thats the really hard part.

Also it takes time. Im just about to start testing with 1 business that I talked to back in January. Sometimes people aren't ready, so you have to treat it like a real world busienss, with lots and lots of work. This is not a get rich and buy and island by next week kind of thing. Its not even get enough money consistently coming that you can live off of it by next month kind of thing.

Ive tested contact form marketing off and on since 2015. I got serious about it at the end of 2017 in December and Ive been putting a lot of effort into this year. Im 8 months in and while Im making solid money, its not enough for me to live off of yet. (Mind you "life off of" for me with a disabled wife and 4 kids etc... maybe somewhat or significantly higher then what you might need. I mean if I was single with no kids.. I guess Im still not where I could "live" off of it comfortably, but by years end Ill be at that point).



I think you need to first challenge your own statement. If I have 10 million contact forms how do you "know" that "most" people send contact forms to their yahoo or gmail?

I would say a majority of companies, that are more then 1 man teams, will use an email thats @Their-domain.com for email because thats just more professional then gmail.

Do people use gmail, sure, do "most" people, I would guess no.

But regardless some will, so there is an overall speed metric. If I go too fast, my click thru rate goes down, and its the same offer with the exact same message and url, so its obviously less getting delivered. So you just have to find your sweet spot.

I would bet mail filters will more heavily filter a bitly url then a regular domain. I feel like I tested this at some level, but I don't have any data in front of me to say for sure.

At the end of the day I can drive thousands of visitors with contact form marketing so if you lose X worth, so be it. You just need to do some basic testing to find the sweet spot that you don't lose more then you need to and then worry about the ones you do get to click thru.[/QUOTE]

Hey this is great info, exactly what i was looking for. Would you mind sharing that "sweet spot" How often are you rotating urls/your contact email/ body? Any throttling on how many sends per hour?
 
Hey this is great info, exactly what i was looking for. Would you mind sharing that "sweet spot" How often are you rotating urls/your contact email/ body? Any throttling on how many sends per hour?

I did weeks of testing sending per hour vs sending per day and the click thru rate was the same. Several of my businesses wind up getting on the phone or live chat with potential customers so its better for them to send all during the day anyway.

What I mean by that is that I split it over a 24 hours period vs sending the same volume just as fast as it would go, but limiting it per day. Both, in this case, were limited to 60K sends per day.

So sending 60K over 24 hours or 60K in a day as fast as it will go, the click thru rates are the same.

You can't track open rates because the sites strip out any html. So click thru is about all you have.

So all things else being equal I do it like this

I send 60K per campaign per day monday thru friday and rest it on the weekends.

Now I have done as much as 100K per a campaign and the click thru rate is only somewhat lower, but like I went around 200K and the click thru rate went down.

Most of my customers don't want to touch people more often then once every 60 days, since its cold. I did try 30 and people complain and at 60 days there isn't any complaints to speak of about sending to them too often.





For my database size, 60K per campaign works nicely because I can run 2 to 3 campaigns and wind up landing right at completing the whole database in 2 months and then start over with a new message, lander and offer for the same company.

But 100K isn't far off. If I go really low like 20K or 10K the click thru rate goes up but I can't spend all year on 1 campaign and I don't want to run 20 campaigns for the same offer so 60K to 100K is my sweet spot.



Also by "per campaign" I mean that in a 2nd campaign at a minimum I use a different name, email, domain for the offer and domain for the opt out.


So that way each email/name and the domains in the message are seeing only 60K sends per day.

Sometimes I will then also split test with different messages and subjects etc... but the domain that is for the offer and the opt out is what can get blacklisted so that helps avoid that.

As for subjects and messages, I still don't have an ultra clear picture how much using the same message and subject in 2 campaings vs using unqiue is. Its somewhat hard because each subject and message will perform differently anyway so it could be reasonably sorted with lots of tests but I just haven't really got that far yet. I just keep testing and keep producing at the same time and thus getting better all the time.

my 2 cents.
 
can't find this answered... @s4nt0s can you specify the email as something like *randomfirstname**randomlastname*@SPECIFICDOMAIN.com? random name matches the rest in the form, and email domain is specified so one can setup a catchall for that domain/sub-domain?
 
I did weeks of testing sending per hour vs sending per day and the click thru rate was the same. Several of my businesses wind up getting on the phone or live chat with potential customers so its better for them to send all during the day anyway.

I have to say im surprised 60k per day is not an issue, but i'm assuming its getting to their inbox if you're getting a decent response rate. I am still unclear about the URL. So you're using the SAME url and email address 60k times per day, everyday and thats not getting blacklisted?

To be honest, if it was working well i would find it a days task to clone something onto 10-20 other domains/new logos and just run that extra volume per day to scale the run fast if you're concerned about the blacklist/open rate. Thanks, really appreciate the experienced feedback.
 
I have to say im surprised 60k per day is not an issue, but i'm assuming its getting to their inbox if you're getting a decent response rate. I am still unclear about the URL. So you're using the SAME url and email address 60k times per day, everyday and thats not getting blacklisted?

To be honest, if it was working well i would find it a days task to clone something onto 10-20 other domains/new logos and just run that extra volume per day to scale the run fast if you're concerned about the blacklist/open rate. Thanks, really appreciate the experienced feedback.
According to Mx toolbox we land sometimes on 1 blacklist sometimes on no blacklist and it seems to be what I would dub a "low level" or low impact blacklist. 200K+ per sustained for days gets on you a blacklist where your registrars legal department contacts you and then takes your domain. Been there, done that, don't want to do it any more, hehe.

60K a day seems to be fine.

But maybe Im missing a different sweet spot and I don't know it. Maybe 45K per day is exponentially better. but we tested 10K per day and 60K per day simultaneously for weeks and the difference in the click thru was marginally better on 10K.

Cheers!
 
According to Mx toolbox we land sometimes on 1 blacklist sometimes on no blacklist and it seems to be what I would dub a "low level" or low impact blacklist. 200K+ per sustained for days gets on you a blacklist where your registrars legal department contacts you and then takes your domain. Been there, done that, don't want to do it any more, hehe.

60K a day seems to be fine.

But maybe Im missing a different sweet spot and I don't know it. Maybe 45K per day is exponentially better. but we tested 10K per day and 60K per day simultaneously for weeks and the difference in the click thru was marginally better on 10K.

Cheers!

Hi, may I know if open many threads but same product than the click rate is drop?
 
can't find this answered... @s4nt0s can you specify the email as something like *randomfirstname**randomlastname*@SPECIFICDOMAIN.com? random name matches the rest in the form, and email domain is specified so one can setup a catchall for that domain/sub-domain?

That happens automatically. When creating a random email, it tries to use the part before the @ from the name/last name field.
 
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