Wordpress posts tags are worthless for SEO

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Lately I've been thinking about Wordpress tags for SEO purposes. Some people found interesting to introduce dozens of tags while others prefer not to use tags at all (only categories, with a SILO structure for example)

From my point of view, I've found some caveats that I would like to share and also see your opinion:

1. Duplicate content: If you fill the tags system with random tags, you may end with non-canonical indexed URLs that point to the exact post, meaning that, to the eyes of Google, you have duplicate content (two URLs pointing to the exact same content). Even if you just use 5 or 6 tags, the risk is still there, because generally, no one used a structured tag system (that is why Categories are useful)

2. Keyword stuffing: This could be a pro and a con at the same time: If you have not been able to stuff your content with enough keywords this could be an opportunity to get some extra entries. The problem is that there is no semantic sense in a tag block, therefore I severely doubt that these extra keywords could be useful at all

But there could be some advantages:
I've seen that sometimes, some tags rank well for certain long-tail keywords. But at the same time, this "tag" pages can cannibalize other content.

An example of a friend site:

https://estoi.co/tag/oikeiosis
https://estoi.co/2017/hierocles-introduccion-oikeiosis/

In this case, the keyword: "oikeiosis" is ranking better for the article, but the tag is in the next place (Wikipedia article is ranking first, at least for es_ES locale).

This means that tags are a double edge sword for SEO purposes. My experience dictates that generally, they are not a bad idea, but I have never analyzed if they could be harming other places on a site.

So theoretically, Tags are completely worthless and even harmful but could be useful at the same time. I have not figured out a formula to make tags useful + harmless. This is my two cents about this topic. Open to see others opinions.
 
Actually last week I did remove almost all my tags. I had ~800 tags and now I have 170. And i'm not sure if it's coincidence but one article where I had a lot of tags now is ranking better with just 2 tags. Also, in the future I want to test it what happens if I delete all tags. IMHO, no bad thing should happen.
 
I always have tags set as noindex and always hidden on my pages or posts. I used them merely for some internal site funtions as related posts and so on. Otherwise, they are imo pretty useless.
 
Good points but, if you set them up correctly, they can be ok.

I have a number of /blog/tag/[xyz] pages ranking in the top 10 for keywords with 1000+ monthly searches.

I am doing something a little different and adding content to the tag pages (not using WordPress) so there's some related content, however.
 
I always have tags set as noindex and always hidden on my pages or posts. I used them merely for some internal site funtions as related posts and so on. Otherwise, they are imo pretty useless.

Good point! I did not notice that (actually I didn't know that related content was based on tags)

Do you use certain plugin for this rel=noindex effect?

Good points but, if you set them up correctly, they can be ok.

I have a number of /blog/tag/[xyz] pages ranking in the top 10 for keywords with 1000+ monthly searches.

I am doing something a little different and adding content to the tag pages (not using WordPress) so there's some related content, however.

Seems legit, but the question, in that case, is... why not just using categories instead? You are essentially using tags as categories are used in Wordpress (with related content/description for the category in place)

Wordpress does not offer a specific feature to add some content to the tags (and it doesn't make sense either, because categories are there for that).
 
Not sure about wordpress but in drupal they are actually bad for your seo imo, ive had blank tag pages rank for keywords.
 
I use them to interconnect posts / related posts usually. I noindex both to prevent duplicate content. Reason why I don't just use categories is functionality - I dont want a 1000 categories listed; makes it a nightmare if I need to change something up.
 
On my current site, I use catergories for broad sets, and tags to narrow them up.

Like my catergories might be
Worksheets
Policies


Then my tags would be:
Inspections: which might have a policy AND a worksheet

This is done for the user and to connect my related posts that might be in different catergories. This saves me from having 1,000 catergories.
I no index both catergories AND tags.
 
I use them to interconnect posts / related posts usually. I noindex both to prevent duplicate content. Reason why I don't just use categories is functionality - I dont want a 1000 categories listed; makes it a nightmare if I need to change something up.

On my current site, I use catergories for broad sets, and tags to narrow them up.

Like my catergories might be
Worksheets
Policies


Then my tags would be:
Inspections: which might have a policy AND a worksheet

This is done for the user and to connect my related posts that might be in different catergories. This saves me from having 1,000 catergories.
I no index both catergories AND tags.

How you design a SILO structure without categories and with noindex?
 
Seems legit, but the question, in that case, is... why not just using categories instead? You are essentially using tags as categories are used in Wordpress (with related content/description for the category in place)

Wordpress does not offer a specific feature to add some content to the tags (and it doesn't make sense either, because categories are there for that).
I do use categories, but they are for more broader subjects.

If there's a topic that doesn't have enough content to make up a category (10-15+ posts) then I create a tag for it.

We have done this on Drupal, but I am pretty sure you can still do it on WP.

https://wordpress.org/plugins/rich-text-tags/
 
Lately I've been thinking about Wordpress tags for SEO purposes. Some people found interesting to introduce dozens of tags while others prefer not to use tags at all (only categories, with a SILO structure for example)

From my point of view, I've found some caveats that I would like to share and also see your opinion:

1. Duplicate content: If you fill the tags system with random tags, you may end with non-canonical indexed URLs that point to the exact post, meaning that, to the eyes of Google, you have duplicate content (two URLs pointing to the exact same content). Even if you just use 5 or 6 tags, the risk is still there, because generally, no one used a structured tag system (that is why Categories are useful)

2. Keyword stuffing: This could be a pro and a con at the same time: If you have not been able to stuff your content with enough keywords this could be an opportunity to get some extra entries. The problem is that there is no semantic sense in a tag block, therefore I severely doubt that these extra keywords could be useful at all

But there could be some advantages:
I've seen that sometimes, some tags rank well for certain long-tail keywords. But at the same time, this "tag" pages can cannibalize other content.

An example of a friend site:

https://estoi.co/tag/oikeiosis
https://estoi.co/2017/hierocles-introduccion-oikeiosis/

In this case, the keyword: "oikeiosis" is ranking better for the article, but the tag is in the next place (Wikipedia article is ranking first, at least for es_ES locale).

This means that tags are a double edge sword for SEO purposes. My experience dictates that generally, they are not a bad idea, but I have never analyzed if they could be harming other places on a site.

So theoretically, Tags are completely worthless and even harmful but could be useful at the same time. I have not figured out a formula to make tags useful + harmless. This is my two cents about this topic. Open to see others opinions.
Tags create duplicate content always been like that. You put 10 tags on 1 article you essentially create 10 duplicate pages of the original article. Just by using tags you don't rank in this day and age anyway so same as with meta keywords just a waste of time using them.
 
Good point! I did not notice that (actually I didn't know that related content was based on tags)

Do you use certain plugin for this rel=noindex effect?



Seems legit, but the question, in that case, is... why not just using categories instead? You are essentially using tags as categories are used in Wordpress (with related content/description for the category in place)

Wordpress does not offer a specific feature to add some content to the tags (and it doesn't make sense either, because categories are there for that).

Yoast will do the trick. There are some decent guides how to set it up.
 
Yoast will do the trick. There are some decent guides how to set it up.

I did it last night with Yoast SEO!
I was going to edit my original post, but this forum does not let edit past posts :p

If there's a topic that doesn't have enough content to make up a category (10-15+ posts) then I create a tag for it.

I currently see it the other way around: If there is a category with too many posts, I create several subcategories linking from the main category (SILO structure).

The problem of those unmaintained plugins that add some functionality that is not commonly used, is that they may break at some point and they may leave your site totally broken :S
 
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How you design a SILO structure without categories and with noindex?

Not all my sites will silo. Depends what I'm trying to do with the site and overall structure.

I'll use categories to group main categories. Subcategories if needed if there's enough content. Tags to help link other pages or for auxiliary topics.

There's plenty of plugins, Yoast included, that can automate some of these things - nofollow, noindex, permastructure, canonicals, excerpt, etc. Some plugins will be abandoned some have been around for awhile. Yoast has been around for a long time and is one of the more popular options. I think there was an issue with it a few months ago with images/attachments creating duplicate content... or something. I'll see if I can find the article, unless someone has it handy or remembers what it was about
 
WP tags used to command so much weight in the past - the WP tags were ranking and getting indexed instead of the post, as there was once where G placed importance on the tag which caused such circumstances.
But with so many updates in place, the WP tag ranking factor has diminished and it should be used wisely with proper planning.
If added too many tags, related and unrelated, that would cause an issue - if such circumstances, place no follow instead.
Otherwise, the tag is handy, as you can use the tag cloud for references as well.
 
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