BHW & Haters..Is it just me?

[umerjutt00]

Some people who I knew in real life were interested in how this while "online earning" thing work. They wanted me to teach them step by step.. Instead I shared the site (bhw) so they can learn themselves.. They just couldn't put the work to learn and stopped without even trying.

 

[Setox]

Well, a Lot of "Donkeys" out there including Guru, Some "Knights", "White Hat Vampires" ...etc see the information shared on bhw as something that destroy peoples mindset, and ppl should rather pay $100 /month for a forum where Guru share their Millions dollars case study that they paid milions dollars for it to be successful, it's the good information that according to them will let Broke & Individual Marketers start their journey with !
Personally, I shared BHW with one offline friend but he didn't create any account, actually, he don't know even what "account" means, Other few friends don't even know that i'm working in IM , Online friends already know about BHW, they appreciate the information shared here !
So, I think that Internet Marketing has just turned out politic, haha with a Left & a Right !

 

[soa0611]

i shared bhw with 4 my offline friends , who have offline jobs.
anybody from them was not interested.
they even dont almost understand what the fuck is this.

 

[Vladamir]

I dont share because I dont want anyone I know looking back at my post history and seeing all the stupid crap I used to say 5 years ago....and am still saying...

 

[cyberjunkie]

The peoples I referred were not my offline friends but my online clients and acquaintances who can't be seen as a competitor threatening your source of income.

I put some time analysing why I'm closing the tabs and it looks like I found the reason.

I used to make a lot of money in my late teenage and early 20's in multiple offline ventures. You simply won't believe how much profit I'm making for that age. Also, I used to develop and run several offline ventures for my friends and expect nothing in return. No profit share nothing. The friends I partnered with are that GOOD - I stupidly believed at that time. My ex's father who is also a great friend of mine repeatedly told one MANTRA to me which I failed to understand/envisage.

This is what he said - Never ever do something for FREE that you're very good at. I was seen as a successful business person at such young age who's spending his precious time on developing other people's businesses for zero profit share. After some time, almost all the buddies whom I helped had failed at their business after me leaving them to take care of my own businesses. And that's when I realised they're not as good friends as I believed and they're just sucking out my blood for their own benefits.

And then my last straw was a few years ago when I shared my super successful but completely untapped IM strategy with an IM buddy whom I know for not too long. He turned out to be evil and wiped me off the charts. I put a lot of time and money into learning/testing/finding that strategy. The thing is I never really wanted to SpoonFeed him but shared the stuff and it's formula during a casual talk. Never really seen him as a threat as he's onto another niche and doesn't have a clue about what I'm into. Turned out, he partnered with someone who's into my niche and took all my businesses and profit. A few of my other offline buddies are also into IM and comes to me asking for help every now and then but I don't SpoonFeed them as much as I do here.

Now that might be the reason for my reflex but I have no problem helping/guiding peoples who are already in BHW.

I appreciate your story and I can relate to it. Your ex's father gave you great advice. You learned the lesson of The Winklevoss twins minus the 65 million legal settlement and the FB stock. Your current reflexes are valid.

By the time I was 23 I earned $20-$30k per week online. Life was amazing, at the time it was the most BIG money I'd ever made. That period of my life was also responsible for the same lesson that you learned with your IM buddy. I had a 6 month run with this method before I made the mistake of sharing key info with another person who actually ushered me into the method of money that I was making.

After he kept pressuring me to clue him in on what I was doing differently than he was.. I caved in reluctantly. Since he brought me into the method at his smaller scale I felt a bit obligated to spoon feed him the details. He was only earning about $5K- $6 per week with it, and after he brought me in as a partner I took it to another level based on creative thinking and in 2 weeks I was at $15K per week, week 4... $20K etc.

Shortly after I revealed to him how I was able to earn at my levels in such a predictive and formulaic way, the specific method by which I relied upon dried up and the method came to a grinding halt. It didn't wipe me out because I had another core business (int'l trade) but this $20-$30K sideline was a higher and more steady cash flow income earner than my core business at the time which was seasonal, plus the sideline required MUCH LESS WORK.

To this date, it was the easiest money I've ever made. Lessons learned from the school of hard knocks. ;-)

 

[uncutu]

If someone is serious about it, I'll show them to BHW and help with their questions.
Most of the time, they are not serious, and I will just shrug.

 

[cyberjunkie]

i shared bhw with 4 my offline friends , who have offline jobs.
anybody from them was not interested.
they even dont almost understand what the fuck is this.

Everyone is not interested in making money online- they are the wrong market to share with. The guy that I had a conversation with inside of a coffee shop was a guy who professed to me to be an online entrepreneur with an interest in SEO and digital marketing. When I mentioned BHW as a good resource after asking him if he was a member, he acted as if I had offered him explosive diarrhea. Idiot!

Some people who I knew in real life were interested in how this while "online earning" thing work. They wanted me to teach them step by step.. Instead I shared the site (bhw) so they can learn themselves.. They just couldn't put the work to learn and stopped without even trying.

This is a very overwhelming environment for a newbie to learn if you don't arrive here with a clear sense of direction or purpose. It's a very busy site. When I first came here the level of distraction wasn't what is now. When the site was sold a lot of things changed. The site is valuable if you have focus.

It seems most here don't share BHW.

 

[SpoonFeeder]

I liked your previous profile pic more.

 

[Zwielicht]

I don't tell anyone I know about Black Hat World for three reasons:

1. I don't know many people who are interested in making money online.
2. The few people I do know are idiots.
3. I'm a moderator here.

In the case of the first two, I'd rather not invite people here who wouldn't make the community better. However, in the case of the third reason, I could end up straining personal and business relationships if I have to take action on the people I invite here.

If I knew people who were interested in IM, wouldn't be problematic, and would be a good addition to the community; I'd probably invite them without letting them know I moderate the forum (but then again, they'd recognise me by my picture). I'm pretty sure having another moderator penalise them on my behalf would be a good solution to that issue, but I'd rather not go through that hassle.

 

[SlickSocials]

The point is to keep it that way, not telling the peasants about that! so we can keep these secrets to ourselves!! lol

 

[Peter Ngo]

Believe it or not, i shared it with a few people but majority of them are too lazy to even read lol. So don't worry about it too much.

 

[cyberjunkie]

I don't tell anyone I know about Black Hat World for three reasons:

1. I don't know many people who are interested in making money online.
2. The few people I do know are idiots.
3. I'm a moderator here.

In the case of the first two, I'd rather not invite people here who wouldn't make the community better. However, in the case of the third reason, I could end up straining personal and business relationships if I have to take action on the people I invite here.

If I knew people who were interested in IM, wouldn't be problematic, and would be a good addition to the community; I'd probably invite them without letting them know I moderate the forum (but then again, they'd recognise me by my picture). I'm pretty sure having another moderator penalise them on my behalf would be a good solution to that issue, but I'd rather not go through that hassle.

All valid reasons not to share.

I'm a North American currently in the Philippines and anyone who's here and not of customary retirement age or with a military look tends to get asked the redundant question "WHY ARE YOU HERE?" When I tell them I'm in the online marketing business or BPO business the next thing they want to know is "How do I make money ONLINE"?

It's easy to be dismissive and move on. Sometimes I feel the urge to help with direction. Online marketing is such a broad term that these sorts of conversations normally last longer than I have time for, especially if I'm just trying to get a coffee and LEAVE. I have found that more often than not, most people who ask those types of probing questions are indeed idiots, or just being nosy and are less interested in really earning online.

 

[ViceOffers]

BHW is a popular forum it is not a secret forum, I dont spread the word BHW people might think I am using blackhat especially customers/clients , but nerd / seo / marketing people do know BHW. and this place has a lot of content going on

 

[justbrowsing1]

How's it going in the Philippines? I'm an expat here too. Have writers churning out 3000 words per day of fairly high quality content for $10 per day lol

 

[agent009]

bhw is the best black hat forum ever

 

[Zombiesmasher]

Basically I'll share it with anyone who comes at me with notions that you can't make money using BH , if only to help explain the scope of it. I've sat in meeting rooms with a lot of WH agencies who try and scare away clients from the idea of BH ("it'll make Google angry, it's only for short term gains, you'll be kicked off the internet") - while hypocritically using BH behind the scenes to boost their numbers and showcase their value. A lot of these clients are too laymen to know what's really going on, so there's money to be made there.

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/are-you-white-hat-irl-or-are-you-openly-black-hat.974223/- I'm always curious as to how many people admit to being BH, or is selling the Unicorn still the only way to seem legitimate.

 

[cyberjunkie]

The point is to keep it that way, not telling the peasants about that! so we can keep these secrets to ourselves!! lol

"not telling the PEASANTS" Grrr harsh words in 2017 but I sense a sense of humor ;-)

Which of these non peasant social networks do you have memberships in?

If your pink Slick Socials Service can assist in any of the social networks above, send me a PM.

Thnx,
CJ

 

[cyberjunkie]

How's it going in the Philippines? I'm an expat here too. Have writers churning out 3000 words per day of fairly high quality content for $10 per day lol

To answer your question it's "OK lang po"

The Philippines is a tool for a business unit. I divide my time in other much better places for my priorities. I'm glad you've made the Philippines work for you, but I"m sure your "editors" are very busy if you're doing any kind of high volume writings targeted at native English readers.

 

[cyberjunkie]

Basically I'll share it with anyone who comes at me with notions that you can't make money using BH , if only to help explain the scope of it. I've sat in meeting rooms with a lot of WH agencies who try and scare away clients from the idea of BH ("it'll make Google angry, it's only for short term gains, you'll be kicked off the internet") - while hypocritically using BH behind the scenes to boost their numbers and showcase their value. A lot of these clients are too laymen to know what's really going on, so there's money to be made there.

I posed a similar question a couple weeks ago here - I'm always curious as to how many people admit to being BH, or is selling the Unicorn still the only way to seem legitimate.

Indeed they are a bunch of hypocrites for the most part and masters at those client based scare tactics that you mention. True words.

 

[cyberjunkie]

I liked your previous profile pic more.

Thnx. I changed it back just for you. Not sure how much longer I'll keep it though. I've been away from BHW for about 4 years
and my things here are a bit dated and dusty. Must eventually upgrade the profile info and the girly parts pic. ;-)

Eye candy is always a good thing.