Martial Arts / MMA / boxing

[marly]

In between cleaning up my PC (thing was getting slow as hell, ain't no way to work without getting bald), enjoying the sun and in between some failed projects (adapting to mistakes), I recalled some saying I read from McGregor:

Mayweather, your no fighter, your a boxer.
In the end he came back from it saying Mayweather had some crazy good techniques.

But still, if you think about it, wouldn't Mcgregor beat Mayweather's ass in MMA in just a few seconds?

Isn't fighting on the street more of a complete package? With fighting on the streets I mean a random fight.

So is Mcgregor right, or do you think mayweather would still kick ass at MMA?

In other words, what do you think, is boxing a sport you could really use in outdoors fighting, or does an allround fighter have a big advantage?

Probably people more experienced with these questions as I am.

 

[Deleted member 719276]

@Reaver knows the answer.

 

[Angel_L]

Basically yes, it is the closest thing to 'real' fighting. There is no weapons/eye-gouging/crotch kicking/fish-hooking/headbutting allowed, but otherwise all of your body can be used as a weapon.

The reason why McGregor would murder Mayweather in an MMA bout is that he is an experienced wrestler and jiu-jitsu fighter. Mcgregor could literally, no exaggeration, throw 0 punches in an MMA fight against Floyd. If Floyd doesn't knockout him out with his first punch then McGregor gets a gable grip around his back and tosses him to the floor, and then it's only a matter of time. It would takes years of training for him to catch up, and even then it's not like Connor isn't getting better.

If you're ever worried about actual street fights then jiu-jitsu is arguably the best martial art to learn (which is a required skill to be successful in MMA). It's all about the submission game. It's the safest and the deadliest, and smaller guys aren't in as big a disadvantage if they're fighting bigger opponents. If a Gracie white belt is fighting someone untrained in jiu-jitsu, that guy is gonna get fucked up 90% of the time.

 

[Reaver]

Of course Gregor would kick his ass. Mayweather isn't an MMA fighter. He's a friggin boxer. That's why Gregor got his face beat in. He's not a boxer, he's a freaking MMA fighter.

Remember when Michael Jordan tried to be a baseball player? He sucked ass bc he's not a baseball player. He's a basketball player.

People rarely succeed when they attempt to cross over to different sports. Stick to what you know, and stay in your lane.

Mayweather may be a lot of things, but he's not stupid enough to challenge that cocky shithead to an MMA fight.

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

Of course Gregor would kick his ass. Mayweather isn't an MMA fighter. He's a friggin boxer. That's why Gregor got his face beat in. He's not a boxer, he's a freaking MMA fighter.

Remember when Michael Jordan tried to be a baseball player? He sucked ass bc he's not a baseball player. He's a basketball player.

People rarely succeed when they attempt to cross over to different sports. Stick to what you know, and stay in your lane.

Mayweather may be a lot of things, but he's not stupid enough to challenge that cocky shithead to an MMA fight.

Sometimes you are so vague in your commentary it is hard to really understand where you stand on something.

I saw MJ play baseball IRL (3rd row behind home plate, gift tickets from a friend) and you could see he was athletic but the mechanics were missing for the most part.

@Reaver - going forward please be more direct in how you feel and think as it is hard for some of us to get your point of view.

 

[Deleted member 979859]

Of course Gregor would kick his ass. Mayweather isn't an MMA fighter. He's a friggin boxer. That's why Gregor got his face beat in. He's not a boxer, he's a freaking MMA fighter.

Remember when Michael Jordan tried to be a baseball player? He sucked ass bc he's not a baseball player. He's a basketball player.

People rarely succeed when they attempt to cross over to different sports. Stick to what you know, and stay in your lane.

Mayweather may be a lot of things, but he's not stupid enough to challenge that cocky shithead to an MMA fight.

Why do you compare McGregor with Michael Jordan? McGregor started with boxing, so he had experience. He is also sparring with other boxers his whole life. So it isn't that strange to fight against Mayweather.

 

[mickyfu]

Sometimes you are so vague in your commentary it is hard to really understand where you stand on something.

I saw MJ play baseball IRL (3rd row behind home plate, gift tickets from a friend) and you could see he was athletic but the mechanics were missing for the most part.

@Reaver - going forward please be more direct in how you feel and think as it is hard for some of us to get your point of view.

You are pulling my leg, Michael Jackson never played baseball.

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

You are pulling my leg, Michael Jackson never played baseball.

Surely you deserve to have your leg pulled.

 

[diceball4ever]

Of course Gregor would kick his ass. Mayweather isn't an MMA fighter. He's a friggin boxer. That's why Gregor got his face beat in. He's not a boxer, he's a freaking MMA fighter.

Remember when Michael Jordan tried to be a baseball player? He sucked ass bc he's not a baseball player. He's a basketball player.

People rarely succeed when they attempt to cross over to different sports. Stick to what you know, and stay in your lane.

Mayweather may be a lot of things, but he's not stupid enough to challenge that cocky shithead to an MMA fight.

I totally agree with your point, but another side of the coin is that McGregor is actually much much more focused on boxing than all the rest of his MMA skills combined. If you look at all his matches from past few years in UFC, you'll rarely see him deliver any decent kicks or take downs (maybe not rarely but a lot less than other MMA fighters). Not trying to take away anything from him either. He can kick and has a really decent takedown defense. And personality and marketing wise, no one can really match him. But his primary skill (and overall edge) is actually "punching", even in UFC. I've seen a lot of his fights and am quite a fan, so I'm not shit talking here. Just pointing out something that a lot of people overlook.

By the way, did you hear Nate Diaz is asking $30 million for the third fight? It's so absurd that he thinks he's worth that much. What an absolute loser.

Oh, and just to clarify, I was speaking generally and not about the McGregor vs Mayweather in MMA. This one goes without saying that McGregor would absolutely destroy Mayweather in the first round, any day!

 

[wealthyslacker]

Kevin Joseph Aloysius “Chuck” Connors (April 10, 1921 – November 10, 1992) was an American actor, writer and professional basketball and baseball player. He is one of only 12 athletes in the history of American professional sports to have played both Major League Baseball and in the National Basketball Association. With a 40-year film and television career, he is best known for his five-year role as Lucas McCain in the highly rated ABC series The Rifleman (1958–63).[1]

 

[darulez]

In between cleaning up my PC (thing was getting slow as hell, ain't no way to work without getting bald), enjoying the sun and in between some failed projects (adapting to mistakes), I recalled some saying I read from McGregor:

Mayweather, your no fighter, your a boxer.
In the end he came back from it saying Mayweather had some crazy good techniques.

But still, if you think about it, wouldn't Mcgregor beat Mayweather's ass in MMA in just a few seconds?

as we seen, gregor can take 9 rounds of sirious ass kicking and still can stand his ground.
in an MMA match, mayweather would have been down the first round and pinned to the floor. and dead.

thats the difference.

you seen in the way gregor started fighting and he had to holp himself back not to do MMA stuff to stay in the rules..

sadly.

 

[darulez]

If you're ever worried about actual street fights then jiu-jitsu is arguably the best martial art to lea.

it's the least you want to learn, as it's far away from real street shit. as there are no rules.
go krav maga. there are no rules.

but, listen to sniffus and their wing tsun stuff.. trying to defend their "martial arts" against real self defense..

dude. I was in karate, jiu and kendo. 2 hours of krav maga cured me...
SF is messy. so train for it.

 

[kickthat]

You are pulling my leg, Michael Jackson never played baseball.

Yeah, but only Little League...

 

[Reaver]

Why do you compare McGregor with Michael Jordan? McGregor started with boxing, so he had experience. He is also sparring with other boxers his whole life. So it isn't that strange to fight against Mayweather.

Oh ffs. Stop licking this man's balls.

I don't care what you say, he is not a freaking boxer. He may focus more on boxing than any other MMA fighter, but he's still a damn MMA fighter. He is not primarily a professional boxer. He mixes boxing with other styles of fighting, which is why he was stupid enough to wear himself out and then get his face turned into pizza.

He's used to quick(er) matches in shorter rounds using his entire body, not patiently waiting and strategically fighting.

Getting real tired of you kid. I'm about three seconds from putting you on ignore. You act like people can't point out this man's many, many flaws.

We get it. You want to have his babies. You're starting to come across like AlumniAce. Don't go there, or I'll start treating you like I treat him: like a joke.

 

[servworld]

I've seen a few MMA vs Boxing fights and the MMA fighter always wins. It's just so strange to fight with an MMA fighter if you're a boxer because you just don't know how to use your legs... don't know how to avoid take downs, the ground game is completely gone, etc.

 

[Setox]

It's a commonsense that Boxing Community have so much hate on MMA, A lot peoples, professional boxers ..etc thought that Floyd put boxing reputation "on the line" when he accepted to fight Mcregor who wasn't a Boxer, it's not a matter of who is strong, Boxing has it's pride.

P.S : those comparing MMA fighters to boxers and trying to come to a conclusion as to who would win are no different than those wankers Arguing Superman vs Powerpuff girls on comic forums .

 

[apex1]

Boxing is by far one of the best street fighting arts, Muay Thai is way up there as well. A lot of MMA grappling techniques can be very risky in the street, because you might have to worry about getting jumped by the guys friends or get attacked from behind. It's best to stay mobile and be able to escape ASAP.

I remember seeing a recent video of one of the best wrestlers in Russia that died in a street fight.. he got stabbed in the back while trying to grapple.

 

[davids355]

Of course, mcgregor would have beat mayweather easily under MMA rules - it would be exactly the reverse of what happened in the boxing match.

Neither of these are real fights though.

In a real fight there are no rules, so I think it comes down to something completely different - how much of a beating are you willing to take and how much do you really want to hurt or kill your opponent.

If you watch some irish traveler fights on Youtube they are pretty impressive, very raw and very brutal.

 

[Reaver]

P.S : those comparing MMA fighters to boxers and trying to come to a conclusion as to who would win are no different than those wankers Arguing Superman vs Powerpuff girls on comic forums .

Oh look! A tiny message! It's so cute! Look at how big it wants to be!

 

[Setox]

Oh look! A tiny message! It's so cute! Look at how big it wants to be!

Sometimes you are so vague in your commentary it is hard to really understand where you stand on something.

AlwaysInvisible ? is that you ? Oh we miss you girl !

P.S: I wasn't comparing, just trying to say comparison in such situations is pointless !