Zeek Rewards- Anyone tried it.

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jmdawson said:
I am getting a lot of messages asking me how I am promoting Zeek ... I really use the personal touch with videos ... One of my pages is jeffsteam.com
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I use quite a bit of social networking...FB, Twitter (with the help of TweetAdder :)) and networking on forums.

Just recently though I came across an interesting banner program called Banners Broker. In a lot of ways it reminds me of ZR...very impressive returns, and sort of a similar "Collective Advertising" concept only when you advertise for them you also promote your own product/service. I recently did a small test run which the company allows you to do as a free member and used some banners that ZR gives us. I had a CTR of .19% which I think is pretty good for banners. I think I'm going to go with it (I'm just a free member right now) using my profits in ZR as seed money (it's always wise to diversify). My sponsor in ZR told me about it a while back and thinks it will be every bit as profitable as ZR. I really trust his judgement as he has the clout to get first hand due diligence and has met with the owners (as he did with ZR). It is a global company, so it'll serve us well in ZR. I believe the company has been in business for about 1 yr and has paid out over $17 million in commissions to date.

The website is bannersbroker dot com though to get into the meat of the info you need an affilate invite. PM me if you want my link.
 
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Speaking of my sponser in ZR...just to give a few of you a little encouragement, he makes about $2000 per DAY in ZR! And probably more than that by now as that was the last time I talked to him a couple of weeks ago. I think he started with ZR about 9 months ago....I know...I know...sickening isn't it?
 
Hey Shelterman, I don't have enough posts to pm you but if you do have a way for me to join you , I wouldn't mind joining under you
 
Great to see all these folks getting involved with Zeek .... I am closing in on $700 per day. Should be there by the next Friday ... This business Rocks!
 
resistosai111 said:
i am free member i join this site 4 days ago. I am creating ad and qualifying for next 24 hours daily what to do next? The bonus point is gaining. How to earn money as a free member. Or better to be silver etc.
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Free members can still earn 20% on the subscriptions and auction bids you sell, but for the daily profit pool you need to sign up as a silver, Gold or Diamond affiliate. It really is affordable--PM me for more details.
 
For the doubters--my sponsor is always really dubious about joining stuff like this because he is has been burned in the past, but he was so impressed by this system that he went all in and is now making thousands a day. His whole family has setup separate accounts and is doing it as well--and he wouldn't have done that if he thought it was a scam.
 
belgirl said:
His whole family has setup separate accounts and is doing it as well--and he wouldn't have done that if he thought it was a scam.
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....I plan on doing this also.

My sponsor has toured the Rex Venture Group facilities in Lexington, NC. and has met with the owner Paul Burks. He was impressed.
 
I receive numerous questions about the amount of money one will make as a Silver, Gold, or Diamond member so I've attached screenshots of the summary section from the spreadsheet which I make available to my team. Each screenshot shows each level of preferred membership and the number of VIP Points at the end of 60,90 and 365 day periods. It starts with the respective Bonus Points given at each level and assumes that you convert these points to VIP Points (by giving bids away yourself or through the 5cc). It also assumes the daily award at a very conservative average of 1.47%, but each day is different.

Note also that these screenshots do not show any ADDITIONALLY purchased bids, just the original bonus points and basic subscription. If you purchase additional bids over and above your basic subscription, your VIP Point balance will change greatly depending on the amount you purchase.

Please understand that VIP Points ARE NOT DIRECTLY EQUIVALENT TO MONEY! And as I believe Belgirl has pointed out, when you purchase bids you are not INVESTING, at least in the passive sense like the stock market. You are purchasing bids that require ACTION on your part before you make a profit.

If all of this doesn't make sense to you keep watching the training videos till you do. It is very difficult for those of us on this thread who understand this to explain how the whole process works through this format (or at least it is for me). It is best done watching the training videos.

I can answer specific questions regarding a specific part of the process, but to answer a question like "How do I make money with ZR" or even "How do I make money from my Bonus Points" in words is very difficult (again, at least for me). Please take the time to study this on your own and then we can clarify specific things you don't understand.
 

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Hey Shelterman,

there seems to be something wrong with your calculation after 150 days, when you first subtract the points. The general formula is

points(t) = p*(1+0.0147)^t

where p is the points at the beginning and t is the time in days. So if you calculate it directly from here, we have for golden members:

571.03 * (1+0.0147)^90 = 2123.48

while you only have 2062.41.

Edit: Also need to mention that the discrepancy keeps adding up, of course. After a year I get 7033.92 from the calculation.
 

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Hi Bariaska,

The reason for the difference is that you are not accounting for the DAILY drop off (retirement) of VIP Points after the first 90 days. I believe you are only accounting for the initial drop off, but after that, there are a few points that drop off daily based on the increase of VIP Points exactly 90 days prior to any given day.

Many people seem to be angry of the fact that points drop off after 90 days, but if they didn't the whole system would soon become unsustainable due to expotential growth. This is actually something that sold me on ZR. If ZR didn't have something like a 90 day rule in force I wouln't be promoting this as their days would be numbered.

I'm curious, are you new to ZR? The reason I ask is that, aside from your obvious mathmatical ability, you seem to have a good grasp of how this works. The daily drop off of points is something that you couldn't have deducted in my screen shot, but you did catch everything else...I'm impressed.

I might again add, I make available to my team a spreadsheet that details and projects how the VIP points build and shows clearly how the 90 Day Rule keeps things in check and really helps one understand how this all works.
 
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Have been looking into this...all sounds rather confusing. Going to require a bit more research I'm guessing on how it actually works. Guess its worth throwing $10 out for a silver membership to see what it's all about.
 
DoItLikeBernie said:
Have been looking into this...all sounds rather confusing. Going to require a bit more research I'm guessing on how it actually works. Guess its worth throwing $10 out for a silver membership to see what it's all about.
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I know it sounds confusing right now and if your jaw drops a bit at the previous 2 or 3 posts don't be alarmed, you dont HAVE TO understand that stuff right now, it will all slowly make sense.

Like you said, just keep doing your research...it will be WELL worth it. One suggestion however, DON'T feel like you have to start at $10 to "see what it's about". Start at the free level, THEN see what it's about, directly from the company. When you start as a Free member, you gain access to the company training and you get to place your ads and get a feel for how the Retail Profit Pool works BEFORE you make a commitment on being a Preferred (Paid) member. I did exactly what you are suggesting when I started as a Silver subscrber at $10. About one week into being a Silver I realized I should have started as a Diamond. I'm not saying starting as Diamond is for everyone, I'm just saying that I wish I had understood ZR better before I made my choice. I've given this YT link out before, but I'll do it again as it is good. It is my direct sponsor's video and he does a good job of cutting to the meat of what is important to get off to a good start with ZR http://youtu.be/lkI_DNxwUww All I can say is that it worked for me, at least after I woke up and smelled the Zeekler roses:)
 
I hope you all don't get annoyed with all my posts, but my upline just now sent this to me and I thought I'd share it with our group here.

He decided to not just take other people's word for anything but decided to visit the office and meet the CEO himself. If you would like to get an INSIDE LOOK about Zeek from the man himself, the founder and CEO Paul Burks, here is a 60 minute VIDEO (no text) shot by a member of my upline that just went to visit.

There is some REALLY GREAT information in this video that you will NOT hear ANYWHERE else...

Please go watch it NOW, as we have no idea how long they will keep it up...No B.S. We really don't know how long they will leave it up. http://www.gvovideo.com/players/GVO...fffff&color=0xffffff&wm=false&fitp=false&curl
 
Hello :)

I haven't started with ZR yet, though I plan to by next week or so, probably starting as golden. Hence why I calculated it from the golden perspective.

Anyway, I thought I understood it fairly well, but now I find myself a bit confused again. While I did understand that VIP points expire away every day, I didn't know the quantity and thus didn't know how to calculate it. When I saw your screenshot, it seemed they just go away as one batch every 90 days, so I constructed a function for that. Up to day 150 our results match.

I'm now trying to calculate it with daily loss, but again I don't know how many expire. Does the timer start at day 60? If so, then the first points to expire would be at day 150, which would explain why our results match. Up till then there is no daily correction. I suppose the gain from day 60 -> 61 expires at day 151. And the gain from 61->62 expires at 152. Right?
Let's say from 60 -> 61 someone gains 12 points, then he looses those 12 points on day 151.
So after 150 days, all the original points (210,04 for golden) of day 60, when the timer started, are 90 days old and expire. All the points we have created (571.03) in that time are the sum of the individual gains of each day. They are all of different age, not one big batch like the first one. But then you can't subtract them all 90 days later in the way you do; you need to subtract the gain from each day as you go along. Meaning: Gain of today minus gain of 90 days ago. And that for each day.
Maybe I just misunderstand how points are given and taken. I've calculated this new graph by using summation and making an interpolation function of the resulting data points. Since the end result is significantly different from yours, I'd like to know what I got wrong. In addition, if I look past the first year, my function appears to become linear after about 2 years. This might make the model sustainable.

Another thing that continues to confuse me is the 3 different points or bids. Bonus points, VIP points and VIP bids. Are bonus points just the 150 points in the first 60 days and then they disappear and never return? It would make things 33% simpler :)
What if I start and want to, let's say, buy 500 VIP points out of my own pocket - can I do that to give my account a head start so it can grow to high amounts sooner?
What is that I sometimes read about having to bring in customers and give your points away? Don't I then loose it again? What if I'm new to IM (which I am, no pun intended) and am not sure if I can bring in customers so easily? This is a concern I have.
 

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Bariaska said:
Hello :)

I haven't started with ZR yet, though I plan to by next week or so, probably starting as golden. Hence why I calculated it from the golden perspective.

Anyway, I thought I understood it fairly well, but now I find myself a bit confused again. While I did understand that VIP points expire away every day, I didn't know the quantity and thus didn't know how to calculate it. When I saw your screenshot, it seemed they just go away as one batch every 90 days, so I constructed a function for that. Up to day 150 our results match.

I'm now trying to calculate it with daily loss, but again I don't know how many expire. Does the timer start at day 60? If so, then the first points to expire would be at day 150, which would explain why our results match. Up till then there is no daily correction. I suppose the gain from day 60 -> 61 expires at day 151. And the gain from 61->62 expires at 152. Right?
Let's say from 60 -> 61 someone gains 12 points, then he looses those 12 points on day 151.
So after 150 days, all the original points (210,04 for golden) of day 60, when the timer started, are 90 days old and expire. All the points we have created (571.03) in that time are the sum of the individual gains of each day. They are all of different age, not one big batch like the first one. But then you can't subtract them all 90 days later in the way you do; you need to subtract the gain from each day as you go along. Meaning: Gain of today minus gain of 90 days ago. And that for each day.
Maybe I just misunderstand how points are given and taken. I've calculated this new graph by using summation and making an interpolation function of the resulting data points. Since the end result is significantly different from yours, I'd like to know what I got wrong. In addition, if I look past the first year, my function appears to become linear after about 2 years. This might make the model sustainable.

Another thing that continues to confuse me is the 3 different points or bids. Bonus points, VIP points and VIP bids. Are bonus points just the 150 points in the first 60 days and then they disappear and never return? It would make things 33% simpler :)
What if I start and want to, let's say, buy 500 VIP points out of my own pocket - can I do that to give my account a head start so it can grow to high amounts sooner?
What is that I sometimes read about having to bring in customers and give your points away? Don't I then loose it again? What if I'm new to IM (which I am, no pun intended) and am not sure if I can bring in customers so easily? This is a concern I have.
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Bariaska, I PM'd you.
 
Thank you for your pm, though I don't have the required amount of postings yet to answer it.
Maybe you can tell me your email in another pm, then I can answer you there.
 
Think of your ZeekRewards VIP Retail Profit Pool this way:

1. You have a bucket called "VIP" and a bucket called "Bonus Balance" and a bucket called "Leftover Change" and a bucket called "Cash Available".

2. Each time you buy and give away a VIP Bid to a customer in your ZeekRewards Back Office a point is added to the VIP bucket.

3. From time to time the company awards points into your Bonus Balance. For example, each new signup gets 100 points in their Bonus Balance to get them started. New members who choose to initially join at the Silver, Gold or Diamond level upon their initial registration receive 10, 50 or 100 bonus points.

4. In your VIP Retail Profit Pool Report there is also a Bid Repurchase Preference box. This tells the VIP Retail Profit Pool what percentage of your daily rewards you want to withdraw in cash and what percentage you want to use to purchase more VIP bids. The system recommends a percentage based on the size of your VIP bucket, but you can set it to any percentage you choose.

5. Each night, after the close of the normal business day, the company takes part of the day's overall business production which can include auction sales, product sales, member renewals, bid sales and other income production from our member companies and divides them among the qualified members. "Qualified member" means that they are a Silver, Gold or Diamond member and that they have placed an ad promoting Zeekler, have registered it in their back office during the preceding 24 hours and have purchased at least 10 VIP bids via their credit card or AlertPay. Free Members do not receive awards for their VIP bucket but can still see the award in their Bonus Balance bucket.

6. Here's an example as it relates to the VIP bucket: Let's say you are a qualified member and you have 500 bids in your "VIP" bucket. Then let's say that tonight the company awarded a 1.5% payment. And let's assume that your Bid Repurchase Preference is set to zero percent (0%). 1.5% of 500 is 7.50. Therefore, your Cash Award amount would be $7.50. That $7.50 would appear in your Cash Available bucket. If the same percentage was paid tomorrow night you would see $15.00 in your Cash Available bucket. this would continue, based on that Award percentage, until you had been paid on them for 90 days. Then your VIP bucket would be empty and you would not receive nightly Awards until you bought more bids.

7. Now, let's look at that same example but with the Bid Repurchase Preference set to one-hundred percent (100%). Tonight you would still receive the same $7.50 Cash Award, but instead of going into your Cash Available bucket it would, instead, be used to purchase 7 more VIP bids (and you'd have 0.50 towards the purchase of another bid) which would immediately appear in your Zeekler bid bank ready to use on the auction. You would then see your VIP bucket increase by 7 to 507. Tomorrow night, based on the same 1% Award level, you would receive an award of 1.5% of 507 or $7.605. This would buy you 8 more bids and increase your VIP bucket to 515 with twenty cents ($0.105) in your "Leftover Change" bucket. Each time the Leftover Change bucket reaches a dollar or more, a dollar is deducted from it and buys you another VIP bid.

8. Now, how does the Bonus Balance bucket play into all of this? Very simple. The Bonus balance is calculated separately, but is increased by the same percentage every day that you qualify as the VIP bucket.

So, if the Award is 1.5% and you have 100 points in your Bonus Balance bucket then tonight the Bonus Balance would increase to 101.5. Since Bonus Awards cannot be withdrawn as cash the Bid Repurchase Preference does not affect them. They will always generate awards at 100%. Tomorrow night the 101.5 would increase to 103.0225. Since Bonus points are not buying bids there is no need to track the 0.0225 separately. Your Bonus Balance will continue to grow for a full 60 days and will transfer over as points (not bids) into your RPP VIP Point Balance. That would be the 100 points you started with plus whatever points awarded that you have accumulated over the 60 day earning period. For example: Awarded points equal 125 and original bonus of 100 (total 225 points). At that moment, the original 100 points would drop off and the 125 remaining points would be transferred to your VIP bucket! From that point forward your daily Cash Award amount would be based on the full amount in that bucket, INCLUDING the points that were transferred from the Bonus Balance bucket.

9. Remember that Bid Purchases will generate awards for 90 days and Bonus Points will generate awards for 60 days. At that point they "drop out" of their bucket, but if you have been using 100% bid repurchase preference instead of withdrawing cash, your RPP VIP Points will have grown by even more than they started with.

Hope that helps!
 
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shelterman,

The address you gave me seems to be wrong, my mails return with a failure notice. Since I'm not even allowed to post my own mail, I am currently out of options. Perhaps I should go and write a bunch of useful messages...
 
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