Hi guys, Just new on this forum. But not new to black/grey-hat regarding seo. But one thing got my attention a year or 1,5 ago, youtube view "fraud", I was so excited that I planned a great campagne around it, and developed it for a year or so... But after reading a lot of posts and replies on this forum, I come to the conclusion that at this moment nothing works anymore???? Those programs that they try to sell like traffic master with ez proxy, or tube automator? Is this correct? And is the only way to get a lot of views, paying someone for views? Thanks!