If this is the wrong forum for this post, sorry. Just relocate the topic then. I was just wondering about the motives of the members here. As in, what made you involve yourself in Black Hat SEO and other techniques described on this website? Dit it seem a quick buck to you (which it probably isn't, lol) or did you have other, maybe more complex, motives? For me, it was kind of a realisation that I had a couple of weeks ago. At the moment I'm not earning that much money. Story's kind of complicated, but it comes down to the fact that due to circumstances, I can't work in my main (parttime) job for more than 24 hours per week. The work I do at the moment doesn't pay that well hourly either, as I wasn't able to follow any kind of specialised education. I do some freelancing, too, and although quite irregular, I do earn a lot more with that on an HOURLY basis. Standard of living at the moment isn't too bad for me, but I'm spending more than I earn, and seeing your total balance shrink and shrink every month isn't great fun. Anyway, a couple of weeks ago I kind of "realised" that loads of people are out there, making money, profiting off the backs of people who are too kind, too honest, or too morally involved to stand up for themselves, let alone do the same. There was kind a shift in my mindset to a higher priority considering actually earning money. Hesitations I had before, mainly based on vague things such as ethics or morals, seem to have vanished. Let's say I feel that I'm done with being shat on and I feel comfortable with involving myself in some of the grey areas of the interwebz. So, that's me. How about you?