Wtf am i doing wrong? CB selling not going well.

Dragn

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I'm an affiliate marketer that got into the buisness via Travis's "Bum Marketing" method, and it was great. I was at one point seeing 100 dollars a day before i quit. since then i stopped all work on it adn moved to different things, but I have always seen residual sales here and there, I therw it up to just a "woot free money again!" and never really thought about it.

Recently however, I decided to revamp it, if it works, why would i let it die yaknow? So i started working on it, i rebuilt the affiiliate links (CB quit promoting some of the products i was selling) and revised the articles to be updated etc etc. I figured this would actually make things grow easier and faster than originally because I was now top listed in multiple search engines unlike before due to the age of my stuff i guess.

However, I've seen the very opposite. heres my results for the month of october:

174 Hops
12 order form impressions
1 sale

wtf? srsly? this has been going on for a couple months now and its ROYALLY pissing me off. IMO with the general rule of traffic, if you get that many people to visit, some -have- to buy right??

now, im not using any tricks, no iframes, no sneaky methods, just hyperlinks from my article to the product page, so im not breaking any rules for CB to negate me as far as i know.

is there something im doing wrong? Or is this considered a bad product and i should switch out? as far as i know, my end of the work is working fine (174 hops is VERY good for the amount of work ive done imo) but the fact that they stop being interested after going to hte product page means its the products salespages fault, right?

this is also the top listed product in clickbank, so im hesitant to go away from it...
 

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normally this is product match up issue. try change your product.

another issue is your article is at the information phase. so, when people go to the landing page and the sales page did a good job triggering buying desire of visitors, they try to make conformation about the product by finding reviews at google. of course there are many reviews because you said the product is popular and you lose the the commission at this point. that should be one concrete case.
 

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normally this is product match up issue. try change your product.

another issue is your article is at the information phase. so, when people go to the landing page and the sales page did a good job triggering buying desire of visitors, they try to make conformation about the product by finding reviews at google. of course there are many reviews because you said the product is popular and you lose the the commission at this point. that should be one concrete case.

the first part (product match up) ive handled since my initial post. that was my exect theory so i went ahead and changed out all cb links to a new product that i hope converts better.

as for hte second issue, is there even the slightest way to fight this problem besides "knock the competition down with my own articles"?

i could do it, but jesus christ that would take a while...
 

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The problem is... snoops!

Let me explain...

If you're marketing the top listed product in clickbank, then obviously a hell of a lot of people are to, including newbies. The trend in forums over the last year or so has been to teach newbie affiliate marketers how to find hot products by "snooping" on article directories and see what people are marketing.

So what does a newbie do? They immediately go to clickbank and find the best selling product (highest gravity) and then head over to EZA and look through all the articles on that topic. Yes, they click-thru to see how they market it.

I'd say if you're marketing a high gravity (300+) product via article marketing, then most clicks are from people checking out your article and landing page to see how you market it.
 

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The problem is... snoops!

Let me explain...

If you're marketing the top listed product in clickbank, then obviously a hell of a lot of people are to, including newbies. The trend in forums over the last year or so has been to teach newbie affiliate marketers how to find hot products by "snooping" on article directories and see what people are marketing.

So what does a newbie do? They immediately go to clickbank and find the best selling product (highest gravity) and then head over to EZA and look through all the articles on that topic. Yes, they click-thru to see how they market it.

I'd say if you're marketing a high gravity (300+) product via article marketing, then most clicks are from people checking out your article and landing page to see how you market it.

nice thinking. to OP, maybe your analytics can help you. this will determine the valid hops. just in the case those articles can be tracked using analytics.

i always study my analytics and make decision based on that data. no of hops from clickbank can be skewed likes Conky said.

174 hops, 12 form impressions and 1 sale was good if not good enough. how about writing a new article for that keyword and get it ranked? the data can be interesting.

if you have some money to spare, adwords is the fastest way to determine the conversion of that product.

you choose.
 

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I'd also suggest switching your product or even the entire niche. If the niche is so saturated then that could be why you get nothing. If it's so freely available to get advice on whatever (dating? weight loss?)

I get over 180 hops a day and probably 4 sales (it's not a great but thats PER DAY).
 

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I'd also suggest switching your product or even the entire niche. If the niche is so saturated then that could be why you get nothing. If it's so freely available to get advice on whatever (dating? weight loss?)

I get over 180 hops a day and probably 4 sales (it's not a great but thats PER DAY).

if i saw 4 sales per 180 hops id be completely happy, but when im getting 1/4 of that it kinda ticks me off >.>

anyways, ive swapped out products and going to give it a week to see if it changes anything.
 
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the only thing i can say is test and tracking are vital in affiliate marketing. you've no other choice unless you can spare some money in ppc. report it after a week. it should be interesting data.
 

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ppc as in adwords?

can i do that when ive got these things posted on article forums and not my own website?

if so then im so doing it, i just got a 100 dollar adwords voucher from google in the mail yesterday...
 

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Dragn, I am no affiliate expert, but when I see those cheesy CB landing pages, I run for the hills. I just do not think they are trusted by the average user. If I was you, I would try amazon, ebay or some of the CJ affiliates as they are much more reputable and everyone has heard of them.
 

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if i saw 4 sales per 180 hops id be completely happy, but when im getting 1/4 of that it kinda ticks me off >.>

anyways, ive swapped out products and going to give it a week to see if it changes anything.

Depending on your niche a conversion of 1 sale from 174 hops can be normal. In this case you just have to increase your traffic (for instance by getting your articles ranked high in Google with backlinking etc.)
 

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i considered trying out CJ but when attempting to signup there were a few problems:

1. they state in the "want to be a member? heres what we require" section that you need to average like 5000 dollars in sales a month and have proof of it? i cant do that D:

2. when i attempt to go to the signup page it just redirects back to the exact same spot, so i cant even attempt to signup

amazon and ebay wont work as i basically sell website subscriptions
 
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