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Would This Site Be Called An MFA Site?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Uptownbulker, Feb 21, 2008.

  1. Uptownbulker

    Uptownbulker BANNED BANNED

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    hxxp://www.kingk9.net/American_Tundra_Shepherd/answers.htm

    Just trying to get my stuff straight!

    Thanks in advance!

    Uptown.
     
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    It doesn't seem to have an abundance of ads, and the links do seem to go to pages with a bit of content, more of a directory.

    It has a crappy design though.
     
  3. Nick Flame

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    No. Not even close.
    I guess the initial meaning of a MFA has been degraded lately. Originally, an MFA was a site that had all the content generated automated-such that it would not make any sense to a visitor- and the ads were displayed prominently in front of the visitors.- you could not see any text on the page unless you were scrolling down, there were only ads .

    Since people could not find any sense in the page content, the only thing that was making any sense at all was the ads- they click, high ctr, good conversions.
    That s the origin of MFA.
     
  4. trophaeum

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    anyone got an example of what they would call a good MFA site by nick's definition then? im trying to work out exactly what i should be making here for an mfa homepage (resetting users homepage on an installer) and im still a bit lost as to what to create for it...
     
  5. bstbiz

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    Yes. I agree with trophaeum.
    I to am a bit confused with tha MFA thing...
    Would be great if we can get an example of what you guys would consider a good MFA site, tools and software suggestions to create them, etc...

    Thanks to all that are part of this wonderful forum..and as always...give it the extra power it deserves by giving it a big nice donation:)
     
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    Check this page: www**kingk9**net/American_Bandogge/ . I like the design of this page... Also most sofware sites have these type of pages and adsense ads... Take a look: www**freewarefiles**com/XnView-Shell-Extension_program_39874.html
     
  7. Uptownbulker

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    Now would the sites to which you referred be termed "MFA Sites"?
     
  8. booman

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    MFA - A keyword rich, auto generated site that's only purpose is to display Adsense ads related to that keyword. When the surfer reaches the page they usually first see the ads only and are required to scroll down further to the "content", which is often just scraped gibberish relating to the keyword for that page. Any and all links either go to Adsense or similar MFA page.

    RSSGm, YACG, Traffic Equalizer are all examples of programs that can be used to create MFA sites.
     
  9. Uptownbulker

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    Now are MFA sites being banned by Google and what are the advantages/disadvantages of such sites?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    That's the advanatage, the disadvantage is that Google doesn't allow such sites, making the chances of having the account banned pretty high. If you have money pending and the account gets zapped.....
     
  11. Uptownbulker

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    Yeah, that's what I was getting at. I don't understand why google would ban them though as the whole point is to get the ads up!

    Makes no sense to me!
     
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    I gave an 'unfair' advantage on CTR and conversions to MFA sites that content sites did not get. My guess anyway

    Or the advertisers had a lot of chargebacks and complained to Google that the publishers were misleading people. My other guess.
     
  13. jisei

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    because MFA mislead ppl to click on the ads. sure, adsense serve contextual ads, but the ads are not 100% related to the content. example: a webpage on 'free web hosting review' and a ad on 'cheap web hosting' are not that similiar are they?

    so ppl looking for free web hosting are forced to click on these cheap web hosting and end up leaving. the only ones earning are the MFA owners and Google. I guess the advertisers are not happy and Google have to ban MFA.

    good that they ban MFA, else the market will be saturated. you need skills to make MFA that doesn't look like MFA. guess the current successful MFA have degraded to less automated. I will be interested if anyone can post a link to a successful MFA site, cause I am interested in making some.
     
  14. trophaeum

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    @subject: honestly i wouldv expected even spammier than that really, the first link is pretty light on imo compared to what they could pull off, thanks for the examples though, iv been trying to work out how to come up with an mfa homepage (i have installers running on a lot of pc's these days) to reset homepages to and needed to work out just what qualified, guess i have my answer, thanks!
     
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    At no time is the surfer forced to click and ads. Forcing the surfer to click ads will get you banned. They always have the option of hitting the back button, but if you are disabling it then this will lead to being banned from Adsense also.

    Building and promoting MFA's is still very lucrative for many, however, since the domains often get banned quickly in Google their is constant building and resubmitting of new domains, which can become quite mind numbing.

    Maybe instead of making these same style sites for Adsense why not make them for some CPA company???
     
  16. Nick Flame

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    Advertisers win from traffic coming from MFAs. A lot. I know even adwords publishers that target MFA s websites. Why?

    It is simple:This is how the process goes, maybe you can understand it better:

    A person search in google for a long tail keyword, let s say " free auto insurance quote"
    To the person, there are displayed the organic results + sponsored results.
    Sponsored results cost around 2$ per click- (let s assume)
    Now the person enter an organic result which is an MFA. He does not find information that he needs there, so he press an adsense ad. How much does the advertiser pays for adsense for content? Let's assume 20 cents.

    So, the basic idea is very simple. Advertisers get Adsense SEARCH traffic, at the price of Adsense CONTENT ads. You see the idea? IT is well known that the sponsored ads in SEARCH results cost much higher than those from content.

    So, who wins and who loses here?

    -ADWORDS publishers WIN: They get highly targeted search traffic at very low bids
    -ADSENSE publishers WIN: They get money from google for those ads
    -GOOGLE loses. Cause people bid much less in the content network than they bid in the search network. Therefore, google commission is lower for adsense in content than for adsense for search.