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Would this BH method hurt my WH site

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by otherjohn, Sep 8, 2008.

  1. otherjohn

    otherjohn Newbie

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    Hi all,
    I am trying to boost my organic traffic to a WH site.
    Would building 100's of Content generated sites or even using sites like blogger with links pointing to my WH site hurt my WH site.
    If i got somehow caught would the WH site be penalized?
     
  2. yuppy

    yuppy Regular Member

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    backlinks are generally always good.

    could it hurt ? yea.

    will it hurt? not likely.
     
  3. Black&Red

    Black&Red Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I think it wont hurt your site.

    as yuppy said backlinks are always good.
     
  4. Hierarchy

    Hierarchy Regular Member

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    my best advice is to spread out the content you create. Meaning do not create a ton of content one day and then let it sit. Gradually build content from a few different sources a day.. such as free blogs sites etc. Its good to have backlinks built on different ip adresses with content relating to the keywords you are pursuing for search marketing.

    Also make sure your using different anchor text for your links..

    For example "blackhat internet marketing" , "internet marketing", etc etc. That way it does not look like you are link spamming if your blogs are all on the same IP range. Just make sure its all relevant to your sites content.
     
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  5. DrJekyll

    DrJekyll Senior Member Premium Member

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    If you are worried about doing something like that, do it with an authority site like hubpages, or a squido lens [lens are not as effective now]

    Link your hubpages to your white hat site, then create your blog farm, linking to that, creating a funnel to your site. and if your blog farm is picked up, your hubpage [or other] gets delisted and not your whitehat site. Basically create a layer of insulation between whitehat and blackhat.
     
  6. brittany46

    brittany46 Junior Member

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    I would suggest you read "Revenge of The Mini-Net" and also get over to bluehatseo.com and search for post on seo empire. Try not to point to many crappy splog links or spam of any sort directly at your WH site. Point them at an intermediary site or sites you own or a lense or hubpage you control. Let them build the PR and then push it to your site. If there is any negative fallout, you and/or your WH site don't take the heat.

    BKDUBS post wasn't there when I started my post. I said just about the same thing.
     
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  7. otherjohn

    otherjohn Newbie

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    Thanks all,
    I am looking at BH methods for this site after the developer screwed us over with some redirects that got us penalized from #1 spot in the search engine to page 8 for our own company name. So I am slowly building us back up.
     
  8. kandor

    kandor Regular Member

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    Just think about it, if this could hurt your wh site, then what would stop your competitor to do this to you and get you out of the game?

    Only way I see that this could hurt is if it can be proven somehow that they where all created by you.

    Best regards,
    Kandor

     
  9. scriptkiddy

    scriptkiddy Junior Member

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    True, if everyone is playing fair, however who says G must play fair. they make up their own rules and change them as they like.

    G actively tries to penalise sites that buy links, by definition this means that incoming links can do harm. So if they (wrongly) just thought you bought a link ?

    If your incoming link profile looks odd, it raises a flag, it may not get you banned or peanalised, but it may get you reviewed. if you then raise a flag for something else there may be a cumulative effect.
     
  10. kandor

    kandor Regular Member

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    I think they look at the buying link this way.

    If the page is known to sell links, and they see your link there, they will penalize.

    Kandor
     
  11. scriptkiddy

    scriptkiddy Junior Member

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    So you're saying that incoming links can cause your site a problem, therefore it's possible to trash a competitor with incoming links?

    This also means that if you spam links it's just possible to accidentally hit on a domain that G doesn't like that will cause your domain to be peanalized.

    As an example I have two domains that I belive in a previous life may have been used as part of a paid link farm. I've had domains banned by linking to/from them. I could setup these domains as blogs with 'follow' links inviting people to spam comments and get banned.

    ( I know these domains are of interest to google because they are banned but get spidered every day, all my other domains that have been banned don't get spidered)
     
  12. kandor

    kandor Regular Member

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    I said that I don't think that incoming links are bad.
    And it is difficult to hurt your self by building Blogs that point to your self.
    They will either count or not count, because if it would be that easy to hurt your domain then your competitors would start to do it.

    But, if the page is known to have sold links, I think you can pretty much assume that the links that you put there will be giving negative effect on your site.

    So in a nut shell I guess you could hurt competition if you know that these domains where selling links.

    But nothing of this is exact science really because we can't know how google decieds on this things.

    But the question was if you could hurt your WH domain by building blogger accounts I belive, and then the answer must be no. otherwise people would build blogger pointing to their competition and take them out of the game.

    That what I am saying.
    Specially when there is software like bloggergenerator, you could build 1000:s of blogs pointing to your competition during a weeks time and then take them out.

    So that was what I answered on.

    Hope this makes sense as English is not my native tongue.

    Best regards,
    Kandor
     
  13. kandor

    kandor Regular Member

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    Forgot to say.

    I usually do sort my list of places I put my links on.

    I sort out all the pages that has -1 and -2 in google pr.

    This can get you far in my opinion.

    If it is an important job, then I filter out everything that is lower than say pagerank 2.

    But at least filtering out negative values is very effective in not hitting such places as maybe say your 2 domains that are banned.

    Best regards,
    Kandor
     
  14. scriptkiddy

    scriptkiddy Junior Member

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    Hi Kandor,

    You make perfect sense, I'm English and you're doing better than me.

    It's certainly safer to only build links from sites that have PR, but even then the site may be under review, when I bought my 'link farm' sites they had pages in G. I'm sure they weren't banned due to my content, but were probably 'under review' when I got them. Can't remember if they had PR, usually I don't care as long as they have pages indexed in G abd Y.

    Hey, nothing in life is totally safe, just gotta do what you can do.

    BTW my 'link farm' sites are banned from G but each have over 40,000 pages and 10,000 backlinks in Y.
     
  15. general_z

    general_z Junior Member

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    Just do it slowly and spread it out in 6 months and make sure there is some sort of rewritten content that updates your blogs or sites but not in a very fast mannor.