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Working out a plan[Hotmail, twitter, youtube] need feedback.

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by MysteryGuest, Mar 21, 2013.

  1. MysteryGuest

    MysteryGuest Registered Member

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    Hello guys, I was thinking about making a program that; Creates E-Mail accounts, YouTube Accounts, Twitter Accounts and so on. Basically my question is if this is any use at all? if so you guys think it could sell.. I got the plans and know how to work it out I just need some feedback if it is even worth it to begin with. Else I just think about something else. awaiting your feedback!
     
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    These accounts usually require sms verification. If you could automate that part then it would be awesome.
     
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    bypassing the SMS function is a pain, but there is a way to bypass it. I'm not worried about that to much, what I am worried about is if it works is it any use to sell the product or is it useless?
     
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    Creating an account creator for some site like hotmail will be a bit easier.. but some of this bot that creates a lot of account for a lot of sites will mostly be stuck at gmail/google accounts.

    Google is so anal that you might get sms verification for the very first account that you create. And sometimes its not even your bot but other problems like ip, user agents and other factors like that.

    Now if you can bypass the SMS verification, I think you will have a lot of customers. but then again...... big G will catch on soon and make it difficult for you to bypass SMS. Then you will have a lot of customers asking for a refund...

    It happened here before for Youtube creation bot. I think the guy was eventually get the banhammer because he cannot solve the problem after big G shut the loophole.

    I suggest you stay away from Bot that automates creations of google accounts. but again... there are so many bot for creations for the other sites like yahoo, hotmail and even twitter and facebook.
     
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    I understand! however there are always ways to bypass it. There are no limits, you just have to be open minded; and yes google always will catch up, but so are we that's the beauty of things. nothing is impossible if you have a strong mind set. EDIT: I'm planning to bring botting to a new level. Even if Google upgrades it wont be a problem, I will build a complete new system to handle these things. Just have to work it out now!
     
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    Its either you are very confident about your coding skill or you overly underestimate google. I think its the latter.

    Anyways, here is a very sure moneymaker plan. Forget making a bot for other sites except google (youtube,gmail) Just create an account creator that can actually mass create accounts.

    Then.. Don't sell the bot but sell google accounts. You will notice that youtube accounts are very expensive and very few sells it. if you can create massive accounts, you can lower your price a bit and crush competition.




     
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    I see, thanks for the tip by selling the accounts. The reason why I'm so confident is because the program will going to act as a human. I will use something new for this. Not going to use those basic functions which everybody uses.
     
  8. Parlez

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    hey MysteryGuest,

    To emulate human behavior, you need to hook the keyboard and mouse directly to your bot. This means your bot can't lose focus and can't use any other program at the same time.

    If you are planning to use SendMessage or PostMessage, it doesn't work unless you also trigger the Javascript events on the web document as well.

    Google tracks every single keystroke and mouse click, so you need to set your "typing" timer between 300-600ms for each keystoke.

    And then comes the fingerprints.. google tracks everything, from your browser, system, screen resolution, flash version, plugins installed..and even the fonts you are using.

    You'll need to spoof all those, possible, but it's a big job.

    Even then it's no guarantee that google won't pick up something and ask for verification.

    Sometimes it's just easier to just verify without trying too hard to fight them.

    That said, if you can make a bot under $30..it will sell extremely well. Just hope it doesn't stop working after 3 weeks.
     
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    yes that's correct once the program runs you cant do anything else, I know it's a pain that you cant do anything else but it's the only way to let it look naturally, If I'm not mistaken a while back ago Google verification could be bypassed if it was a unique forename and last name. Sadly they have taken it out, so I'm switching to virtual phone numbers. Which for now is the only way!
     
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    Its not the only way... it's actually a real pain.

    If you can trigger the javascript triggers programatically, you can skip hooking up the keyboard and mouse. Google only trusts the js events, as long it fires, it will work.

    It takes time to build something like that, but that's the best method.

    There are a few problems with direct hooking for google. Like as the page is loading, it may dynamically scroll or move. Any sometimes may shift focus and even auto scroll on when validating the email add, passwords etc.

    You must constantly make sure window is focused. Then make sure the right input boxes are focused and the cursor caret is in the right box typing in the right information.

    And yes, VoIP numbers are the only way to go, and rather cheap as well.