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Wordpress vs Joomla vs other CMS

Discussion in 'Web Design' started by mpulse, Jan 6, 2012.

  1. mpulse

    mpulse Regular Member

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    So for straight SEO wordpress apparently wins hands down.. I see it most everywhere being used for SEO.

    I prefer joomla since its more flexible. Especially if you want an elaborate website..

    Can anybody tell me why wordpress is much better?
    Or, if this is really the case?
    Joomla guys will say joomla is better or "just as good as wordpress"
    When others say Joomla is hard to SEO and make work for SERPS

    I figure I ask. Since I would believe some of yall might know

    Other than Joomla or Wordpress, is there another CMS that ranks well for SERPS (ie:E107, Drupal etc)
     
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    What do you mean by better? Better for SEO? I don't think it makes a difference which CMS you use.
     
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    For content sites, just go with WordPress. I really don't see why not.
     
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    Joomla has very complex structure and its really pain in ass developing smt for joomla, while wp has clean and easy code
     
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  6. mpulse

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    Yes I was meaning primarily for SEO purposes. Alot of people say wordpress is best hands down.
    But you get mixed emotions with other people that use other CMS systems..
    I figured it would most likely be all the same from CMS to CMS some being a little better but others not.

    Using wordpress is easy, so I thought the reason people liked WP so much is because of the simplicity...

    Wanted to get an idea of what others thought about this. Or if anybody has other CMS's they used with great results..
     
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  7. woofoo

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    yep...mediawiki is much better as it has better links structure. But it is very hard to customize it
     
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    Wordpress has so many easy plugins already dedicated to seo. There are so many tutorials on how to do great things with wordpress. It's clean, user friendly, and professional looking depending on your theme.
     
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    It does not matter what platform you use. Google doesn't give a rats ass if you're using wordpress, joomla, drupal, your own homebaked platform or plain html. If your theme sucks, then your SEO suffers.

    For SEO plugins (ex: creating the most optimum content) then I think WP would take the lead only because there's a mod for it.
     
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    Rougemont Registered Member

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    I prefer Wordpress, hands down. Joomla is just a pain in the butt to use and navigate. Wordpress is easy to use and understand and there are twenty billion plugins to do just about anything you want pretty easily.

    In the interest of full disclosure, I have used both but I've used Wordpress much, much more.
     
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    Wordpress is really a blogging platform, but has enough addons and funcionality to serve as a cms. Joomla is a decent cms for average users. Its easier than Drupal but not as secure. Drupal is excellent for large scale, secure websites because all code added to it must be tested. Drupal is used for white house, house of reps, as well as DOD sites due to its security. However, drupal can be a pain to use -- but themeing it is a breeze for the first 80%! I did a lecture at drupalcamp where I took a html theme and turned it into a drupal 6 template in 10 minutes and it worked -- now to finish all the other pages would have taken a lot longer!
    So for out purposes here, wordpress is a great choice. Its easy for non programmers, can be secured fairly well, and is cheap/easy to install and run. If you want a large scale (DollyWorld, Lady Antabellum, Rascal Flatts) secure site with ecommerce drupal is a very attractive cms.
     
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  12. mpulse

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    I know what you mean. But now days joomla has alot of the same plugins wordpress has. There are more seo related wp plugins I know for sure.

    Navigation in the backend of any CMS is different from one to another so its easy to get confused when working from one to another for sure.

    Menus in e107 are modules in joomla and I think widgets in wp.

    But really for actual on site SEO is what im referring to. I personally dont understand how it could be different really from one to another.
    Unless it has something to do with code validation or something...
     
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  13. mpulse

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    Its developed by wikipedia wow....
     
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    First of all, if you are trying to use Joomla and it's just too hard, you need to learn more about it. Joomla requires TONS of knowledge about how it works, you're not going to go from "oh hey, what's this Joomla thing?" to setting up full blown social sites in a matter of minutes, hours, days, weeks or even months.

    I have been working with Joomla since its inception, and Mambo before that. I can set up sites easily using the platform and quickly, only because much like SEO... Before BHW, web/graphics design was my passion and Joomla my tool of choice... YEARS I've spent.

    Next.. WordPress is not a CMS. It's not even close to a CMS and it's not capable of half what a CMS is. It almost is.. You can plug stuff into it and it'll try really hard to look like one, but don't let it fool you. WordPress is a blog... With a very unique and flexible plugin system.

    Joomla on the other hand, is a CMS. If you want to manage many types of content, you need a CMS. WordPress is not meant to be a store. It's not meant to manage user accounts (aside from simple 'reading/comment' functions), it's not meant to be a forum or manage any other type of content. Except for POSTS and PAGES. If you can accomplish your task with just those two types (and the majority can) then WordPress is your best bet.

    UNLESS, you plan on scaling up anything that would require any type of security. WordPress is a baby.. And much like the Apple/Linux vs Windows for viruses comparison, WordPress is much more susceptible to vulnerability. Joomla is FAR more developed, it's got years and years of solid development for WHAT IT'S MEANT TO BE, a CMS.

    You should not run a large store with WordPress. You should not run a large community with WordPress (unless it's the simple read/comment functions only), you should not do many things on a LARGE scale. If you are expecting tens or hundreds of thousands of REGISTERED users.. And they're doing stuff besides just commenting. WordPress will be the biggest mistake ever.

    Much like actually using and administrating Joomla.. Optimizing Joomla is also a snap. IF you've done tons and tons of learning. I'll steer you in the right direction and tell you that most of it is actually handled by the menu and is similar to WordPress in this regard. You just need to know what parameters you're looking for. But you can do nearly all of your onpage SEO using the Joomla menu item page. Aside from the actual content of course.

    WORDPRESS = If you are looking to set something up NOW. Most IM is best with WP because it doesn't make sense for the time investment required by Joomla. Also, like I said before, most sites can be accomplished with just posts and pages. Portfolio sites, product pages, blogs, company pages, etc. Plus if you are like 99% of people (as in, you have not spent years and years and years learning design, script languages, graphics, etc.) WP is great for non-designers.

    JOOMLA = If you want to do something bigger. Build a real community, a real store, a real forum, a real project management site and you expect hundreds of thousands of accounts and visitors.. Of course if you're knowledgeable with Joomla already, you can pretty much use it like most others use WP. It's more stable, more diverse/flexible, more secure, more everything. WP cannot be Joomla because WP is a blog. Joomla can be a blog because Joomla is a CMS.

    DRUPAL = You will know when you want to tango with Drupal. Get this whole CMS thing down first.
     
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    I would say WP since they have many plugins that is very useful (and you can easily get most of it for free).. Beside the complicated joomla structure, the WP would save me lots of time..
     
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  16. mpulse

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    @meatro

    Damn... Thanks thats a good run down..
    Ive been using Joomla for about 4 years now...
    I dabble a little with WP and used Drupal a few times. But I always go back to Joomla for a solid CMS..
     
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    Thanks metro for giving some usefull info regarding cms and blog.I like joomla because its need some hard work .
     
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    IMHo wordpress is the best .
    Easy to use
    Easy to customize
    Alot of free plugins (SEO Plugins too)
    Alot of free templates
    And much more
     
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    Definately Wordpress , Google loves them aswell :)
     
  20. mpulse

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    So from what i can gather for SEO its really no difference.
    Wordpress is just simpler and has some usefull tools.
    And Joomla is a bit more advanced it also has some usefull tools.
    Joomla has blogping and autoblog plugins now.. and with virtuemart 2.0 on joomla 1.7 I never have to use 1.5 for clients anymore.....

    Cheers and thanks for all your input