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Wordpress vs hand written code websites

Discussion in 'Blogging' started by player1pl, Dec 15, 2016.

  1. player1pl

    player1pl Newbie

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    Hi I recently have been interested in website creation bussiness but have come across a major concern. I don't know if I should be buying and tweaking Wordpress themes or learning to write html+css+javascript and others. I feel like Wordpress has limited functionality as to what you want a given page to look like as you can't fully edit the code to meet your desires but it's way faster that learning html for couple of years.
    Mind you I'm on square 1 but not hard pressed on money as I currently receive welfare.
    Also I'm not here to make a quick buck and been thinking about learning web development to the point that I could sell something on themeforest or the like so Adsense is not my only income.
    What would you guys recommend.
     
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    WP is the most versatile platform out there. You can use child themes to make changes and build any sites you want from blogs to full ecommerce etc.
     
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    Nope. The only limits are your coding skills. Plus there are a million themes available, I'm sure you'll find one you like the look of eventually, if you're not comfortable with your CSS skills.
     
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    Wordpress will be the faster route.
    If you want to start a business around it go with wordpress first.

    If you want to make a small website, without logic you can do that in html+css+js. But wp is used by a lot of users, security is way better.
     
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    If you're going to be in the business of setting up sites for clients then you better have a good knowledge of the web stack (all the languages you mentioned + php/ruby).
    Because just installing wordpress and configuring plugins is not worth very much.

    Then again for most sites wordpress is overkill. If you just want clients to be able to easily add content there are simpler CMSs that don't require constant updates to keep secure.
     
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    Yes I agree, if you feel WordPress has limited functionality then maybe website designing isn't for you.
    Go look at the official site and learn about wp
    https://wordpress.org/
     
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    bullshit. Since when is wordpress more secure than a HTML website?
     
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    a simple html website or a site created by you from scratch in a framework with small knowledge?
     
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    Simple HTML means no user input, no database, no file storage, no cookies, no URL parsing. Worst case scenario something is not displayed right :)
     
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    I asked a question similar to this to a developer buddy of mine (guess that makes me an expert right). He makes his living off tweaking wordpress sites, and he said everyone wants their site to be wordpress. Doesn't matter if wordpress was built for it or not, he pretty much quoted your opinion on the limited functionality of wordpress. He ended up having to jump through serious hoops to make some things work that could have been far easier using something else.

    Rather or not your needs is outside the traditional scope of WP I have no idea, it sounds like you do though. I use wordpress because it's quick, and easy, I may move onto other things if the time calls.
     
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    well it is, you can copy a html website and put it online next 10 minutes, but do that with wordpress :) even if wordpress is not very secure there is still some php and database involved
     
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    Learning frontend stuff like HTML, CSS, Js are the basics for creating themes.
    No matter if it's a static page or on some CMS like Worpress or whatever.

    After that you need to evaluate which cms you want to target. As wordpress has a pretty high adoption and it seems you want to target "normal / standard" users as customers it might be a good choice.

    For me WP is ok for some cases. But it has some drawbacks.
    In it's core it was build for blogging, you could heavily modify a Wordpress to become pretty much everything but it will always stay a blogging platform in it's heart.
    I guess it always depends on what you're looking for or need.

    Extending software / scripts with plugins always comes with the risk of adding new security holes or slowing down a site.
    You could use a slotted screwdriver for a cross-headed screw... Choose the right tool for the work.

    That is a bullshit statement beyond bullshit bingo. High installation doesn't equal to good security.

    Just to give a small example, WP comes with auto update that is / was active by default afaik. Last month a major flaw in the WP update servers were found, which made it possible to rollout a WP update that might add harmfull code to any WP installation using the auto update.

    WP still supports legacy enviroments like PHP 5.2.4+ and MySQL 5.0+. Which in my thinking is a no go, but that are just my 2 cents.

    Anyway WP is not that bad, but I like to use the tool that best suits my needs and not spending time on transferring a tool to something it never was meant to be.
     
  13. player1pl

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    Most Wordpress themes I have come accross has a list of latest blog posts with or without images on their front page. What if I want a massive table? Can I take a 2 column theme with the header I like and add another column?
     
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    OP if you wanna make it in this game you should know both, raw PHP AND Wordpress. Wordpress is just one application of PHP and at some point you're gonna need to customize it, or customize a plugin for a client.

    I recommend you find a free online PHP course just to learn the language, and of course Wordpress is a great platform, but there is also Joomla, Drupal, etc, you should learn a few to know the differences.

    With Joomla you can build a whole enterprise site with more than just content management, it is so full of plugins it almost is impossible to learn all of them.

    So there are options and you should consider 'em all.
     
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    You're wrong about Wordpress. It's one of the most versatile CMS around and you can do pretty much anything (if not more) that you can do on a site coded from scratch.
     
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    You add those yourself, really you need to read up on WordPress, looks like you are looking at demo sites. The authors often make demos, that doesn't mean you can't make your own sites how you want them. You can also add html with WordPress.
    I'm beginning to think this is a wind up thread, so I'm not wasting anymore time on this
     
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    Yea html wins there over wp.
     
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    It doesn't but if only 10 users install and use it there might be way more security issues with it.
     
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    If you want to sell your services as a either a web developer or a WordPress theme installer/editor then you really owe it to yourself and your clients to at a bare minimum have a basic knowledge of HTML, CSS, JS and PHP.
     
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    That's still bullshit, as users use the software not fix bugs / flaws