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Will this defeat penguin?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jdwurn, May 1, 2012.

  1. jdwurn

    jdwurn Registered Member

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    We all know that google is now punishing sites with bad link profiles. This would imply that in order to improve search serp rankings with google, one must remove bad links or build good links to offset the good links in order to improve their overall profile. Even if you do build 'good links' google may still continue to punish you for your past sins.

    I have discovered that it is nearly impossible to remove all of the links to your site by emailing webmasters manually. So I got to thinking, what if there is a better way...The question is, how can we programatically block google from following "bad links" to your site (if at all)?

    My idea is to check the referrer to your site on the top of each page. If the referrer is from a known spam link source, redirect the user to a different 'throwaway domain' to take the heat rather than your site. There are many potential issues with this, such as google thinking that your site has moved.

    Here is my sample code, which I just hacked together and have not tested. I am interested in your comments.

    <?php


    $refferrer = $_SERVER['HTTP_REFERER'];
    $ignorelinks = array("http://www.spamsite1.com", "http://www.spamsite2.com", "http://www.spamsite3.com");


    if (in_array($refferrer, $ignorelinks))
    {
    header('Location: http://www.someothersite.com');
    }
    else
    {
    // display your website here
    }


    ?>
     
  2. neo

    neo Power Member

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    Then google will deindex your site for cloaking.
     
  3. jdwurn

    jdwurn Registered Member

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    You may be right, but this is not cloaking. It is showing everyone the same content... everyone would be redirected.
     
  4. seany

    seany Regular Member

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    I just thought that google scans the websites for URLs etc and if it finds yourmoneysite.com then it would just count it as a backlink... i didnt realise they actually go through the links and checks your site. interesting idea.
     
  5. assphuck

    assphuck Senior Member

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    Until Google adds features to Webmaster Tools to deny backlinks, then you are stuck manually removing backlinks by contacting the webmasters which own the sites linking to you. It's a laborious process in most cases and not worth the effort. If/when Google does add such a feature to webmaster tools, I could see people spending countless hours in there removing shit links. Instead of creating great content as Google wants, many would simply waste their lives away picking at backlinks in webmaster tools. Forget this shit.

    Honestly it is easier to start a new site with a backlink profile that has a clean slate. But that does not mean a competitor won't trash it for you. :) Good luck!
     
  6. jdwurn

    jdwurn Registered Member

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    Yes, with this latest update it is now painfully obvious that Google needs to add this feature to webmaster tools.
     
  7. jdwurn

    jdwurn Registered Member

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    I do not know for sure how google crawls. You may be right.
     
  8. agent-x

    agent-x Junior Member

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    Googlebot doesn't present the HTTP_REFERER string when it visits, so how will you know where it came from?
     
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  9. *zap*

    *zap* Regular Member

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    Very simple really just send the links to google

    Code:
    RewriteEngine on
    RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} their_site1\.com [NC,OR]
    RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} their_site2\.com [NC,OR]
    RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} their_site3\.com [NC]
    RewriteRule .* [url]http://www.google.com[/url]
     
  10. RightInTwo

    RightInTwo Power Member

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    First of all, penguin is not about link profiles. So I'd skip your whole idea all together.
     
  11. topdost

    topdost Regular Member

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    Until and unless you dont give 404 , the links will still be in your count .

    If I do a blast from sb on your site for only 100K will you able to write and add these everyday as they will add .

    But Penguin is not about back links its about over optimization i.e on site .
     
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  12. ComputerEngineer

    ComputerEngineer Senior Member

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    I really don't think so this would work. Only way seems like having unique and great content and building quality backlinks.
     
  13. *zap*

    *zap* Regular Member

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    You should read up on redirects it would be well worth you time (or sites like tiny url would not be about)

    No need too, that was just a example, there are many ways of handling this problem server side, but without knowing all the details of the domain there is no way of giving a detailed reply
     
  14. the_demon

    the_demon Jr. Executive VIP

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    @OP: Good concept, bad in practice. Could you imagine having to load in thousands of urls?

    The best solution is to outweigh the bad links with Good ones and high quality content.