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will redirecting my site get me banned?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by aliskorn, Apr 24, 2008.

  1. aliskorn

    aliskorn Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Hi, guys, i'm new tot the forums,it's like a river of knowledge here:).Here's what i'm planning to do:build a nasty,spammy website with lots of keywords,etc and i want it to redirect it DIRECTLY to the advertiser (with my referral link ofcourse).All of this i learned/will learn how to do it from reading the forum.My question is : will automatically redirecting the site to the advertiser going to get me in trouble with google? I understand the spammy part is dangerous but my question only concerns the redirection.I understand this is a noob question but everywhere i looked for the answer all i got was more confusion.Thank you guys for being here:)
     
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    It's called doorway pages and cloaked pages and yes it will get you banned if you are found. Welcome to the forum BTW. Spam pages are bad and so are redirects. Google doesn't love when you fool their consumers or any other SE. If you do it right it can be active a little longer. You should also define advertiser so we can better understand the question :)
     
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  3. aliskorn

    aliskorn Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    By advertiser i mean the one who pays me per sale.I've seen a lot of pages that were like "we moved, we will redirect you in 5 seconds to our new address". Won't that work?Sorry if it's stupid,i'm a newbie.In a couple of months i'm sure i will learn plenty and contribute to the community ;)
     
  4. moneykz

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    No, affiliates will not close down your account for redirecting.
    If your getting paid on a referral/per sale and not clicks then the affiliates could care less how you send traffic.
     
  5. moneykz

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    I wonder if you realize your in the "Black Hat World" forum?
     
  6. snowwhite

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    Google will not ban you by redirecting if the method you are using is Flash since it cannot read the codes inside a flash redirect

    A Javascript redirect is too risky if you are just new to this stuff

    I use JS redirect with a special script that knows where the visitor is a spider or a human. It doesnt redirect for a spider(googlebot)

    Creating nasty spammy pages is NO NO. Comeon, there are tons of bright ideas to fully optimize a page without doing the elementary keyword stuffing
     
  7. Entrepreneur

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    How do you manage that? I'm not poaching for info, as i have no use for this, but what i'm more curious of is how you recognise a spider's footprint. I thought the only true way to redirect a human and not a spider was using a redirect by ip and subscribing to a list of se spider ip addresses?

    I don't need you to tell me how you do it, i'm just wondering if you are using a footprint or ip for redirect. To be honest i didn't think a spider had a footprint, as such, but i suppose it must do for stats packages to show spider hits. If you're using a footprint, what happens when a staff member of Google visits? :D
     
  8. BruceW4yne

    BruceW4yne Newbie

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    User Agent

    Think again.

    Check your log files.

    User agent will tell you whether the visitor is a browser or a bot. However, if you do have the misfortune of being spam reported, either way, chances are you're fucked.
     
  9. chaser

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    This redirect will cause your site to be removed from google index

    <SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">document.location="http://yoursite.com"</SCRIPT>

    This redirect will PROBABLY be okey for google

    <HTML>
    <HEAD>
    <META HTTP-EQUIV="refresh" CONTENT="0;URL=http://yoursite.com">
    </HEAD>
     
  10. nerdmoney

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    we have done some work for companies changing business names and thus changing urls. We use the javascript method to redirect to the new domain and - I must say - its been pretty successfull in getting the new url index. but, these old domains were generally AGED (the single most important factor according to a nerd named me) and had some decent traffic. Nonetheless, if you want a site dropped and replaced with a new one, this works.

    But not really for a new spammy site. just advertise nickle ppc ads. you can get like thousands of visitors per day, for less than $10/day, if you are tricky enough.

    stay nerdy
     
  11. chaser

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    Correct, if you want your old site dropped and left a new one only, this will work. But if you redirect your domain to some cpa offer I do not think you would want your domain to be out.

    What is a nickle ppc?
     
  12. nerdmoney

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    we call all pay per click ads that we bid $0.05 for nickle ppc. I guess its an internal term, but we go to bunches of pay per click networks and bid 5 cents on 5,000 terms. It usually gets a few hundred clicks a day for ten bucks, so if you have a conversion rate of at leas 1%, and you make at least 5 or 10 bucks a conversion, you make it back, we stuff with these, and do adsense, etc. we like to see a 4-500% return, or we drop it for another page/niche
     
  13. maineyak

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    Try searching for Search Engine Cloaker, it's probably here on the forums