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Will freelancer keep my script and sell it anywhere

Discussion in 'Hire a Freelancer' started by biaobao, Jul 17, 2009.

  1. biaobao

    biaobao Registered Member

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    I am considering to make a website or a software, I have never hire a freelancer before, please give me some advices :)

    I have great ideas so I am afraid they will steal it or keep it.

    Thanks so much~

    I love BHW.
     
  2. risefromdeath

    risefromdeath Power Member

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    everything depends on trust mate.
    You will have to reveal each small detail to the coder, its simple if you dont trust him dont hire him.
    I have taken many projects and i never discussed any one of them with anyone else..because thats not how the game is palyed...and neither i am good at marketing and selling products so i was never interested in anyways..thats the reson i also reject projects whcih offer 50-50 sharing instead of money..

    SO my two cents:- if you feel you cant trust ! DONT HIRE!
     
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  3. Italian Hawk

    Italian Hawk Power Member

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    That's my problem. I have two really money facebook app ideas and one huge bot idea but I don't trust anyone to be straight up with me. I talked to a programming friend of mine and he says that yes, he goes and resells or uses bots that he makes as paid projects for others.
     
  4. darklegion

    darklegion Regular Member

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    Work with someone local and have a contract written in it stating that the programmer cannot reuse any parts of the program.

    You can get even more serious (and maybe scare the programmer away) by saying the programmer cannot do any similar programming jobs for XX amount of time (ie. 1 year, 3 months, etc).

    Trust plays a huge role.

    I do freelance work and I save the projects in case something happens and the buyer is looking for a fresh install, I will be able to provide it but as far as reselling the project under a different name, that is just wrong.
     
  5. 7878

    7878 Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Use a US based freelancer and make them sign an NDA/work for hire contract.

    I had a myspace plays/views increaser built a while back and caught to coder trying to sell it to other people on GAF after it was complete. The really shitty part is he acted like it was no big deal, even though the project description clearly stated that it was work for hire and all rights were to be transferred to me on payment. After a long dispute the guy ended up getting banned from GAF, but I'm sure he sold the source code a few times anyway. :tsk:
     
  6. risefromdeath

    risefromdeath Power Member

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    Thats what i said..if you dont trust someone just dont hire them..whatever you may force them to write or sign..if he wants to sell the code he will do it anyway..unless you want to go in a lawsuit ..
     
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  7. pyronaut

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    To be honest. Find someone OUTSIDE of any sort of freelancer sites.

    Anyone you hire will probably be ripping code from previous projects that they have done ETC. So even if they dont sell the complete project, they will always be mix and matching previous work for clients.

    Failing that, hire a freelancer from here :)
     
  8. pyronaut

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    To be 100% honest. So they sign a NDA. And they break it. Now what? Lets be honest, what are you going to do from there.
     
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    7878 Executive VIP Premium Member

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    I don't know what the OP would do but depending on what type of work was stolen, I would pursue it in court. Honestly.
     
  10. oh222

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    Sue their ass for as much as you want! even for a million- he broke the agreement and he would lose in court!
     
  11. w84it

    w84it Regular Member

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    Its almost impossible. Especially if they are doing everything. They can even just change some stuff and resell the script/website/software. I know this because I do it when I build apps/scripts for people I keep it for myself and sometimes sell it to other people.
     
  12. oh222

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    What a bastard :rolleyes:
    If i would know someone who I have worked with would do something like that I would find him and would pay some gypsy gang of 50 to beat the shit out of him :D
     
  13. pyronaut

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    The amount of times i hear people throwing around "lawsuits".....

    He could lose in court. But i very much doubt many people would take it that far. Thats why i always laugh when people start talking about NDA's. Because if they break it most of the time people wont pursuit it in court.

    Dont get me wrong i know some people will. But its just the same when CPA networks rip off publishers. So many people say "I would sue". But in reality, how many of you have actually? How many of you actually know how to go your way about it?
     
  14. 7878

    7878 Executive VIP Premium Member

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    This conversation took a left turn since I last checked it.

    I was recommending US buyers use US programmers. In that circumstance, an NDA and work for hire contract are all you need to protect yourself. On the other hand, if you don't feel like paying $XX,XXX to have your app developed, hire someone on GAF and roll the dice. :D
     
  15. 24october

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    Sure He will keep for himself and use , About RE-Selling not sure about .
     
  16. blackmagic_80

    blackmagic_80 Registered Member

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    Read the thread and here is my take on the issue

    Until and unless you are choosing a local freelancer and bind him with stringent NDA which would include him not working on the same domain itself, there is no way you can actually control the issue. I dont think thats what you are looking for, cause if cost is not an issue then you should go for a reputed development firm which will prevent anything of the sort.

    Business on the internet is all a matter of trust, repute and longevity. At least for a programmer it sure is. So a dishonest person does not go a long way and features like reviews, itrader( here) go a long way in punishing the guy for his attitude.

    Personally , I would say , hire a person with either of the 2 mindframes :

    1. Agree to a partnership of sorts and since its your idea and his efforts, you can probably give him a share of your business just to keep him happy long term and prevent any reselling on his part as he would be losing as well.

    2. Just get it done and promote your stuff heavily. 99.9% of those looking for the product will not reach him but you ( if you are planning to sell it urself) and even if you are not, just use it for your own good and keep at it.

    Ideas everyone has , and most people remain with ideas thinking that its whats worth a billion bucks..

    NO , my friend its the actions thats worth the billion as an idea is just an idea until successfully implemented. Thinking all of the cons at every step will only prevent you from implementing the idea and getting work done the easy way and filling up your accounts.

    So, either shake hands and get started, or just get started with it. The choice is yours!

    Bottomline : Start Soon ! And of course keep us updated.
     
  17. betster77

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    It's all about how ethical you perceive the programmer to be and confirm references. I have access to scripts I've built AND the data they hold, that if I were to go on a selling rampage, I'd make tens of thousands of dollars. But I won't, and that's why clients payed what they did. at the end of the day, you really get what you pay for.