You think they might be a bit short of cash then? How does bringing out an update that stops people trying to cheat the system make them money? Of course all these corporations are greedy, but equally so are the spammers and scammers. Black Hat World and people complaining google are harming their websites? Can you see the correlation?
That's capitalism. But how are they making money from targetting Black Hat websites?
It's ALL about the list. The MAIN THING you should do is COLLECT CONTACTS! 
It is always good to go from easier to harder when targeting keywords for your blog/website
I don't know how this particular implementation makes them money, but I'm sure that it does. It's also possible to be a genuine update to weed out the spam, they do have legit updates sometimes. But generally speaking, they're only after the money, the updates that happen to benefit the good SEOs are usually a side effect of the main goal of the update...
You don’t know so it’s actually an opinion. The updates don’t hurt me and I don’t even follow them because I’m not trying to outsmart google and hoping I don’t get caught. I have a good brand name, I write good content for my niche and I put in the effort. It’s what the vast majority do.
Doesn't that sum up Black Hat techniques?
not understanding your point anymore. My initial reply was to your statement on you not understanding anymore what google does.The vultures are circling. Put up a post saying your website isn’t doing well and you’re thinking of buying backlinks and watch them pounce! Fresh meat.
Then come back in six months and tell us your website is now falling apart.
Out of the millions of sites out there some succeed and everyone has their own definition of success, but some fail. It’s called competition and if you don’t succeed you start again and try harder next time, or give it up and go and do something else.
I’ve got a magic potion and if you take one tablespoon every night, you’ll wake up on the seventh day and your website will be on page one. Any takers?
That's greed.
If you can’t prove something then it’s not the actual truth, it’s just your opinion and others have different opinions which they also believe is the truth. I understand capitalism perfectly. Of course google is in it for the money it’s a business, just as your website will be trying to make money, but google is also a moderator to stop the Internet descending into chaos.not understanding your point anymore. My initial reply was to your statement on you not understanding anymore what google does.
To that statement I replied with the truth (not my truth, but the actual truth, which I can't prove of course, but it's still the truth) and that truth is that whatever google does it's being done for the money, and that's easy to understand if you know the capitalist mentality.
I don't understand what you're saying about that I don't know, but you're probably right (I've been out of the SEO rat race for over 2 years, and I have no first hand experience anymore in up-to-date methods, although some things still work as good as ever, such as having backlinks / authority, or doing black hat stuff).
Anyway, like I said, I'm not understanding the point of these 2 comments of yours, so if you'll want to enlighten me I'd appreciate it. If not, no biggie and I hope that your WH sites will keep doing well indefinitely
Then block google and use something else.
hahahaIf you can’t prove something then it’s not the actual truth, it’s just your opinion and others have different opinions which they also believe is the truth. I understand capitalism perfectly. Of course google is in it for the money it’s a business, just as your website will be trying to make money, but google is also a moderator to stop the Internet descending into chaos.
Yes, you’re right that backlinks work to build up authority, but there’s a catch. If you’re selling computer software and you have useless low authority links from VPN sellers, porn sites and real estate agents they’re about as useless as it gets. Too many of those and you get penalized because google knows what you’re doing. It’s no longer about quantity, it’s about quality.
Black hat doesn’t work anymore and it’s why google bring out these regular updates to penalize those who engage in these practices. Look through the posts here and find me people that use black hat techniques and their website is booming.
It took me a few years to build up my brand name and when I search for that my website is number two, one down from my LinkedIn page and that’s in one month. In time with good content and social media exposure my site will hopefully start appearing under its topic genre as well as my brand name, or maybe it won’t and I’ll have to re-think and start again. A businessman once told me success is 10% product and 90% marketing and although my website isn’t selling anything I’ve never forgotten that.
The problem is people want now or tomorrow at the latest and it doesn’t work like that. Giving $20 to some spammy character for a promise of huge authority on page one is about as useless as it gets. There’s very little here about time spent and hard work, it’s all about buying a quick fix that will create magic. That’s my (rather lengthy) explanation and my opinion, but it’s worked for me.
Certainly! Google updates play a significant role in determining the success or failure of a blog or website. One of the main reasons for failure could be a lack of adaptation to these updates. Google frequently adjusts its algorithms to improve user experience and relevance of search results. Websites that fail to comply with these updates may experience drops in search engine rankings, resulting in decreased visibility and traffic. Common issues include outdated content, poor website performance, inadequate mobile optimization, and lack of quality backlinks. To prevent failure, website owners should stay informed about Google's updates and make necessary adjustments to ensure compliance and relevance in search results.
A question for you. Who is Peter Harman? No idea? OK have you heard of KFC? Peter Harman was the founder, that's the power of a brand name.
Good luck in building another KFC brand... Google isn't targetting your website... for now. Google destroyed many established websites without any black hat seo used. But you live in your bubble and have no idea what is going on.
if I can't prove something it means that I don't know how to, or that I don't want to, not that it's not true. ALL human beings know truths that they can't explain, this doesn't mean that they're not truths.
100% agree with this, but...
also 100% DISAGREE with this. Pardon me, but I don't think that a few privileged psychopaths at the helm of a random american corporation have been empowered by God to decide what the internet (ie. the entire digital world) wants, needs, or likes. What google does is extreme capitalism (as if capitalism itself wasn't bad enough) that leans towards tyranny and monopoly.
100% agreeing with this take, I don't know why you needed to make this because I don't remember to have debated this point
... But yeah, you are correct hereyou're telling me that google is OK with building links from high authority sites, because they are "quality"? See, this is where we disagree again. Google is against ALL link building, not just against the crappy ones. And you can check this easily: rank a website using only quality links and then report to google directly that you're ranking because you've built "quality" links and see what happens to your site. I'm pretty sure that your domain is going to get permanently banned and deindexed from google overnight. This is how much google cares about quality links...
for how many updates google have had over the last 4-5 years in order to combat spam and to reward quality the SERPs look more and more horrendous after each update. Either the mighty google are failing at their own game, or one of us is not right (hint: it's not me who's not right in this particular matter)
been checking up this forum for at least 5-6 hours per day, for over 300 days per year, for the last 3 years, and I can tell you from 1st hand experience that I've seen a lot of threads of BH sites thriving. Of course, I'm not going to try and find them because I am not desperate enough (yet) to prove this point, but if I get angered long enough I might...
kudos to you for persevering and succeeding! I've got nothing against this
urgency is one of the problems of today's society, yes. But that's also because we live in an insecure society where things are shifting rapidly and we need to adapt or perish, that's why most people don't have the patience anymore to tackle long term projects. But part of the problem for our misery is google and the other mega corporations, these are the entities that (still) rule this world and that dictate the pace and insecurity of life.
well, yeah... If anyone promises huge authority for $20 then it's definitely scam, even I wouldn't fall for this and I'm one of the most scamming-prone people in existence
not disagreeing with this fact, but like I said earlier, this is because times are changing rapidly and most people don't have the time to play by the draconic rules that google (and the other mafia companies) enforce onto us. In today's SEO landscape only the rich, the lucky and the dirty thrive, and that's by design. When the middle class (or the middle man in this case) is driven to extinction (again, by design) you can't blame the commoners for not having patience or work hard enough anymore. There's a lot that's going into what's happening to our world, but again, I can't expand on this in this thread because it's off-topic, but just know that this is part of the reason for which people don't work hard enough anymore
you contradict usrself bozo , ur point does makes sense about the over use of blackhat and not focusing in the original quality content. but the point about google being in shinny armor is stupid.
No one has suggested that google is a knight in shining armour. It’s a private business and as such sets the rules whether we like them or not.
Truth is not subjective otherwise we’d have millions of truths. What you have is an opinion just like millions of others. Nothing wrong with that, but it doesn’t mean your opinion is true.if I can't prove something it means that I don't know how to, or that I don't want to, not that it's not true. ALL human beings know truths that they can't explain, this doesn't mean that they're not truths.
100% agree with this, but...
also 100% DISAGREE with this. Pardon me, but I don't think that a few privileged psychopaths at the helm of a random american corporation have been empowered by God to decide what the internet (ie. the entire digital world) wants, needs, or likes. What google does is extreme capitalism (as if capitalism itself wasn't bad enough) that leans towards tyranny and monopoly.
The human beings are born free, they need to live free, and they must die free, no one (except for God, if he / it / she even exists) can decide what humans can and can't do as long as said humans don't harm, hurt, injure, insult or kill other creatures without their consent. And google have no right to decide or - worse - enforce their psychopathic and egotistical behaviours onto anyone, much less onto everyone. In any normal society this would be punishable by law... the law of morality and responsibility, not the law made by people and controlled by the mafia. No worries, though, the time when all of these greedy and devolved mobsters will be forced to testify before the masses is near.
100% agreeing with this take, I don't know why you needed to make this because I don't remember to have debated this point
you're telling me that google is OK with building links from high authority sites, because they are "quality"? See, this is where we disagree again. Google is against ALL link building, not just against the crappy ones. And you can check this easily: rank a website using only quality links and then report to google directly that you're ranking because you've built "quality" links and see what happens to your site. I'm pretty sure that your domain is going to get permanently banned and deindexed from google overnight. This is how much google cares about quality links...
for how many updates google have had over the last 4-5 years in order to combat spam and to reward quality the SERPs look more and more horrendous after each update. Either the mighty google are failing at their own game, or one of us is not right (hint: it's not me who's not right in this particular matter)
been checking up this forum for at least 5-6 hours per day, for over 300 days per year, for the last 3 years, and I can tell you from 1st hand experience that I've seen a lot of threads of BH sites thriving. Of course, I'm not going to try and find them because I am not desperate enough (yet) to prove this point, but if I get angered long enough I might...
But anyway, the point is that there's a lot of BH stuff that's thriving, more than WH even. If you've not been penalized yet well, lucky you! I still think you're going to get the hammer at some point, but until then you're one of the fortunate few, so ride the wave while it lasts
kudos to you for persevering and succeeding! I've got nothing against this
urgency is one of the problems of today's society, yes. But that's also because we live in an insecure society where things are shifting rapidly and we need to adapt or perish, that's why most people don't have the patience anymore to tackle long term projects. But part of the problem for our misery is google and the other mega corporations, these are the entities that (still) rule this world and that dictate the pace and insecurity of life.
I don't want to get political (because it's against the forum's rules), but part of google's behaviour is political, it's just that I can't expand on this in this thread, but it's true.
well, yeah... If anyone promises huge authority for $20 then it's definitely scam, even I wouldn't fall for this and I'm one of the most scamming-prone people in existence
not disagreeing with this fact, but like I said earlier, this is because times are changing rapidly and most people don't have the time to play by the draconic rules that google (and the other mafia companies) enforce onto us. In today's SEO landscape only the rich, the lucky and the dirty thrive, and that's by design. When the middle class (or the middle man in this case) is driven to extinction (again, by design) you can't blame the commoners for not having patience or work hard enough anymore. There's a lot that's going into what's happening to our world, but again, I can't expand on this in this thread because it's off-topic, but just know that this is part of the reason for which people don't work hard enough anymore
That's the only absolute truth in this time and age, sadly.
yeah...
That’s true, all big businesses are in it for the money and your website is not? If you were the CEO of google of course you wouldn’t be just interested in profit would you.
The question is still open – How do google make money from stopping black hat techniques?