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WHY some people go this difficult way? (it could be so easy)

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by cherry_brother, Dec 19, 2012.

  1. cherry_brother

    cherry_brother Newbie

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    hey everyone,
    first of all i have to say that english is not my first language (so, sry if there are some mistakes but i hope you can understand it).

    i read this forum for a long time but i can not read it anymore how people make it so difficult..

    why are you waste your time with view-bots, subscription-bots, account-bots, upload-bots and so on? it is just a waste of time, waste of money ...and a risk to getting banned from adsense!?!!


    i earn 1500? (=2000$) per month with ripping youtube videos and just have to work 10 hours per month for that (it is my third month).

    all you have to do is to register some youtube accounts (i have six accounts) and upload videos with ONE TOPIC. i have one channel for gameplay videos, one for audiobooks, one for documentations and so on and so on. you will get more subscribers and more views fast if you have ONE TOPIC for EACH CHANNEL (i get ~500 subscribers every month for every channel).

    These are real persons who are really intrested in my videos/topics = so i get guaranteed views in future (i could upload nothing next month but get my money guaranteed).

    1. you just have to search for other youtube channels of private users who uploaded videos with one topic.
    2. look if this private users get their videos monetized (so you have a guarantee that you get the videos monetized too if you ripp and upload them new)
    3. go to the "uploaded videos" of the channel > right-click on the thumbnails and copy the link > paste every video link in a word-file
    4. if you have enough links copy them all and paste them in jdownloader.
    5. download it, upload it new ...that is all.


    and where is the problem?!?? you do not really have to work ...just to wait. i do not know how much YOU earn with youtube but i think 2000$ in the third month is enough (without paying for views, sharing on facebook and these waste) ...and it increases.


    so, all i want to say is: do not make it so difficult. let youtube run, be happy, and get informed about alternative methods/ways to make money. :)
     
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  2. saxgod

    saxgod Regular Member

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    Ok, so if you have a gaming channel like you say, do you only do one type of video's about games; eg reviews of games
    or do you also include trailers of hot and new upcoming games.
    do you copy 1:1 from a user or do u copy video's from multiple users ?
    do you mix it all in the topic as long as it is related to the topic ?
     
  3. cherry_brother

    cherry_brother Newbie

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    > saxgod
    no, you do not get official trailers monetized and you can not use official reviews (because it's too risky). i just use gameplay videos with commentaries of private users and copy these videos 1:1. i also use private videos from game conventions. for example: i got many clicks with videos about the new wiiu (before the release). i just ripped some videos and uploaded them for third times (with english, espanol and german title/description). you just have to upload new hot videos: you can use google search for new videos in the past hours.

    second example: i have a channel about politics and uploaded many videos about the presidential election ...one minute after the election.
    third example: i have a channel with casual videos and uploaded ~15 news-videos of "the spacejump of felix baumgartner" ...one minute after he jumps.

    if you want to have click-wonders you just have to search for new/hot upcoming events/games/... (try to be one of the first)

    but 90% of my videos are ordinary videos with 1000-10.000 views. if you have enough of them you will earn enough too.
     
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  4. abhi007

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    ripping videos of other users is against youtube TOS i suppose?
     
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  5. dr.Hus

    dr.Hus Regular Member

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    do you make any changes in video or just ripp and reupload ?
    changes = duration, format, background music etc..
     
  6. saxgod

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    So in the end you just need to be very quick and onto the ball :p
    Well I can see how it can work without viewblasts etc then. Most of the vids that get blasted get blasted because there are thousands like them already and the one with more views shows up higher in the search results.
     
  7. cherry_brother

    cherry_brother Newbie

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    >abhi007
    who cares? subscription-bots, account-bots, user exchange services and so on are against the tos of youtube too.

    if the owmer of a video noticed the video-rip and report it to youtube, you just have to delete the video (no blocking, no copyright offense, nothing). you just have to take care of big companies/youtubers (so do not rip videos of gamespot, ign and so on).

    >saxgod
    if you want a click-wonder - yes. ...but that means work.^^ it is not necessary to earn much money on youtube.

    >dr.Hus
    just rip and upload new without any changes (i just change the title, description and thumbnail)


    and if you do not believe me: register a new youtube-account, rip some videos and upload them. you can monetize the videos without adding adsense. look if your uploaded videos will accept for monetisation - it will! (after that you can add your adsense-account if you want)
     
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  8. thetraveller

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    What about the videos that are watermarked/or show a logo with the original user channel? Many popular private users who comment their gameplays place a signature on their vids or even record themselves on their videos. How do you cope with that? What your subscriber/visitors base action will be. You can receive flags or reports. Correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    So you are telling that you earn few grands a month with adsense?
     
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  10. cherry_brother

    cherry_brother Newbie

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    >thetraveller
    if you upload a video with a watermark/logo it wil be accept by youtube too. you could just get problems with the background music because youtube is using a content-id flter. ordinary user can report a ripped video as they want. they are not the owmers - they have not the rights to decide what happens with the video. just the real owmer of the video can decide what happens. so ...an ordinary user can just report it to the original owmer who could report it to youtube. but if you just rip videos of privat users ...that is improable.


    you can have 3 copyright offenses on your channel before your channel & adsense will banned. (so ...if you are scared you can stop the monetisation after 2 offenses. but to get 2 or 3 copyright offenses is really difficult :D - so do not rip videos of big companies)
     
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    So basically, your main monetization relies on..? Adsense? Affiliate products? Just curious.
     
  12. cherry_brother

    cherry_brother Newbie

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    >Madruga
    just adsense. but i will try it with affilate services too in future.

    but thats not my only source of income (have two blogs next to yt)
     
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  13. snurper

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    Do you know what happens if you get two warnings on one channel, and then two on another channel? Do you lose your adsense account?
     
  14. cherry_brother

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    >snurper
    you need three warnings on ONE channel to lose your adsense account.

    but it is really difficult to get three warnings (and if you have two warnings you can also stop the monetisation on yor channel. you do not have to delete your channel and can wait 6 month - then the warning is invalid)
     
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    Q: So let's say I want to create a channel with upcoming movies, I can rip videos from, say, apple trailers, upload it to yt and monetize it with adsense? It's just that I'm seeing many movie trailer channels doing exactly that, using videos from "big players" (on the other hand, it is in the interest of big studios to promote their movies, right?) Can I expect copyright ban hammer on my ass, then?

    Sorry if that sounds really stupid :)
     
  16. cherry_brother

    cherry_brother Newbie

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    this movie trailer channels are mostly official companies who pay for the rights/license of trailers. i never see private users on youtube who do this.

    sure, the studios are intereted in promoting their movies ...and maybe some studios will do nothing if you upload their trailers BUT if you use their work to make money (with adsense) the video get banned fast and you get a warning. (and maybe big companies will do a criminal charge/lawsuit).

    so ...i would not do this. it is too risky!!!


    EDIT:
    and you do not need phone vertifications for youtube channels (just if you want to upload videos with a length of 15+ minutes). normal videos have a smaller length. do not waste your time with 50 accounts, view boosters and so on like other users here^^
     
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  17. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Premium Member

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    interesting post, I haven't started doing any youtube stuff yet so definitely some food for thought , thanks
     
  18. H2oBoy

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    IMHO...The OP makes some valid points!

    I agree that way too many people, myself included, make affiliate/internet marketing WAY TO COMPLICATED, when there's a DOZEN or so ways of earning money online out there for your choosing...all one needs to do is to just stick with ONE METHOD FIRST...make it work, earn money with it, then find a way to automate it...or out-source it...and then go find that 2nd money making method and then just rinse/repeat!

    As for always trying to game the system, by using 'bots'...all you're doing is wasting time/money when you should be looking for real viewers who you can ENGAGE WITH on a regular basis!

    Search out similar/like minded youtubers, subscribe to their channel, find those videos that you yourself would want to watch and then not only post comments, but find a way to do a video response...if allowed of course...and start getting their viewers to your page!

    Give them what they're looking for...information of one type or another..and find a way to monetize it!

    These are, of course, just my thoughts and much like gas mileage, yours will vary!
     
  19. skgoa

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    I have a couple of questions: 1) how do you find the right videos? That is, are there certain criteria you use to select videos or do you simply choose a topic and take all the videos you can find? 2) You say AdSense is you big money earner. What about putting an affeliate link, a PPD link or something else along those lines in the descripiton?
     
  20. LOL500

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    This is evil ripping off other peoples stuff, I hope you at least have the courtesy of linking back to their channels.
     
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