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Why SEnuke sucks...

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Expertpeon, Nov 10, 2011.

  1. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    I think most IMers realize SEnuke is overpriced, slow, and extremely buggy.
    It wasn't until I just finished this template that I realized just how awful it is.

    Timed session (with random youtube videos about the topic created for this site spun into every post also... which SEnuke cannot do):
    37 minutes
    877 blogspot posts made on 175 subdomains, 100% success rate, 100% correct URL deposit rate
    15 proxies used seemlessly.

    Account creation of 175 blogspot accounts:
    2.5 hours in conjunction with other accounts also being created too (in this case it was with about 8 other sites being processed)

    Thank you SEnuke for being incapable of doing anything worthwhile and your 30% success rate. The audacity they have for charging an extra $400/mth to have them run the damn thing.

    Support for 75 web 2.0 sites, 200-300 accounts being created on 75 web 2.0 sites inside a day... 90%+ successful account creation (most are 100%), and nearly 100% posting success on all of these sites also. Incredible that they charge what they do with about 1/100th of this functionality.

    (Really I just wanted to make a comment about this, because of the countless hours of frustration SEnuke brought me early in my IM career)
     
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    Throw this language in hell !

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  3. Kickflip

    Kickflip BANNED BANNED

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    Maybe I don't understand your post. SeNuke works fine for me. I get the results I want and expect from it and its all very easy to set up and execute.
     
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    theindiaphile Senior Member

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    I hear you. But if you make a mediocre tasting ice-cream, in a world full of basically crap ice cream, people will love you for it. Who's making something better?
     
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    Something just not sucks.
     
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    SEnuke has been working fine for me too...Of course it's not 100 % success-rate, but it's not as bad as you describe it...
     
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    HarrisonHill Regular Member

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    Is it only me or you guys too can't understand what OP has posted?


    What are you talking about?
     
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    I really don't like that program either. I expect more. I could outsource the aspect of social and web 2.0 properties for cheaper. The price of senuke could buy you a fiverr gig a day, and it's not taking up space on your computer.

    I ran it for a month and wasn't impressed. It would be nice to create a tool that is way easier to use, more functional, and allows you to add sites.

    If big g can create a spider that reads java script then we should have the ability to create software that learns new sites, and stream lines the process.
     
  9. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    I guess our expectations are very different ;)

    Sorry must need some coffee,
    I've taken some time recently and created my own SEnuke killer for just myself to use.

    It at present supports 75 web 2.0s, with a nearly 100% registration/posting success rate.
    SEnuke also is at present adding a lot of "social networks" that have no areas to actually post (asianave etc), or are microblogs. I guess it is doing this to pretend that it's actually adding resources?

    I am... :) it's already done really. Not really sure what the threshold is with what I'm doing now, as far as speed, but I cannot generate 4000+ web 2.0s worth of "unique" content each day anyway. It's likely the current tool could create and post to at least that many every single day before reaching speed limitations.
    Took me almost a full week of work to do create reg temps/posting templates and work the bugs out on 75 of these sites.

    Also created a neat little tool that creates hotmails and removes the spam filters (100% removes the filter, not just lowers it)

    Coolest part about what I did was it embeds videos... in every post you wish it to, on every site that allows it (and can also create pages and scrape the urls perfectly on website creation sites like beep)

    I am thrilled by my blogspot template though, as it honestly was ridiculously frustrating... and it works like a charm now.
    My problem is not SEnuke's price, that's easy to pay, its SEnukes value, which is very low.
     
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  10. KlaAz0r

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    it's the users that makes it worth
     
  11. Kickflip

    Kickflip BANNED BANNED

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    But is there some site where your tool is readily available for the public to purchase it and will it be updated when people start mass automating signups through the tool and the web 2.0 properties add in new features to keep automation down? Do I know how to code a tool? Nope. Do I have thousands to pay someone to code a tool for me? Nope. Does SENuke let me have on-demand control that outsourcing doesn't? Yep.

    If the tool isn't for you, that is fine. But for the thousands of users who love it, it doesn't suck. It gives them much better on demand results than anything else available on the market does.
     
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  12. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    I'll probably, eventually, have one of my proteges offering it as a service here. Where a 250%+ unique article on your topic is written (10 sentence replacements + synonyms) and and 4000 web 2.0s are generated, then 20-30k articles from ridiculously spun we have on hand (uniqueness over 95% in SEnuke) stuff is used into AMR linking to your web 2.0s...

    However, the tool could be done by anyone at this point... it's really just plugging crap into it. (titles, pagenames, articles, all in spintax)

    Pretty neat.
    The blogspot one itself is worth more IMO than a lifetime SEnuke license... it does a truly brilliant job now.
     
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  13. Dan Da Man

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    Easy for you to say because you have created your own tool. For those of us who no literally nothing about coding, I think I have no choice then to stick with senukex. Sounds like you are getting ready to unleash the sales pitch!
     
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  14. Kickflip

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    How is that the same thing as SeNuke? If I have to hire someone to do a service, that completely defeats the purpose of why I like SeNuke. If you wont offer it as a tool for everyone to use and abuse however they see fit, then your tool sucks in comparison to SeNuke.

    Your tool is GREAT for YOU. And it will probably provide a great service if you ever offer it. But it isn't even close to being the same thing as SENuke so why are you comparing the two? Its like comparing a Homemade Cheeseburger to a McDonalds Cheeseburger. They are essentially the same thing but comparing the quality of the two is ridiculous since one is made specially for you, and one is available to everyone in the world anytime they want it.
     
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  15. oneder

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    I'm pretty sure OP is refering to ZennoPoster refering to his previous posts. By chance, are you into selling your templates?
     
  16. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    haha, no not any time soon.
    I've been fairly vocal for quite awhile about my hatred for the tool and its chronic inaccuracy.

    I neither have time nor the desire to sell SEO services personally.

    http://corinzander.com/reviews/site-services/nuke4me/nuke4me-review

    It's not the same thing as Senuke, because this actually works?
    Nuke4me = 400/month

    Not sure how something made by you vs something made by a company would necessarily be better, especially such a premium service like Senuke.
    Using your cheeseburger example, it would be like Gordon Ramsey making your cheeseburger vs you making it. I'm sure he can do a better job.

    Probably not... money is the one thing I don't need at present thankfully.
    Since I have a few people working with me now, I'd like to train someone to take over this new task and go after new markets with even more sites...

    Thats the intention anyway.
     
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    OK, inspiring to hear about what you've created though, I'm gonna have to get into that program soon.

    A quick question, are you still seeing results from spun material? I ask because I just came across this thread http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...push-stop-read-uc-linkpush-my-500th-post.html and was wondering what you think about it. I'm much too lazy to completely go that route...

    Thanks.
     
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    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    It's tough to say, but spun content as of a 2 weeks ago still works fine
    The spun content I create is very different than the eznine fetching 1 layer spinning you generally see though.
     
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    Am I able to just call up Gordon Ramsey to make me a cheeseburger?
    Will Gordon Ramsey make me 10 cheeseburgers and let me only pay for 1?

    You are comparing the Nuke4me service with a service YOU want to eventually have one of your "proteges" offer. The Nuke4me service and SENuke are not the same thing. You are saying SENuke sucks because your tool is better, but once again, you are completely ignoring the point of SENuke.

    It is available to anyone, anytime.
    You can use it unlimited times for a set monthly fee.
    You don't need to have any coding knowledge.

    When you are offering something even close to that, for the same or lesser price with better results, then I could understand you thinking SENuke sucks. But if you aren't offering it to everyone, then why are you shitting on SENuke? They provide something you do not and have thousands of happy customers.
     
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  20. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    There is probably an objective measure of sucking... at least I would argue that.
    SEnuke makes a lot of promises, and just because any other "prepackaged" tool sucks slightly more than it does, doesn't mean it still does not objectively suck.

    If I shelled out $2000 for a piece of software, it better do exactly what it says it will with a high degree of accuracy.
    Again I'm not tremendously interested in selling this... as any money would be low (compared to using it myself personally).

    Also at $147/mth it's by far the most expensive SEO tool, so yes it would be the gordon ramsey of cheeseburgers.
     
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