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Why Reddit Upvote Groups Don't Work

Discussion in 'Social Networking Sites' started by codexehow, Dec 16, 2014.

  1. codexehow

    codexehow Power Member

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    This is a repost of a post I made in the Hire a Freelancer section. Figured since I went to the trouble, I would post it here too. I realize that some people probably have success with these groups. There are always outliers.

    →Even with a Reddit upvote group, your content still has to be quality. If you get 50 upvotes and your content is crap, it will get squashed back down to zero in no time. The reason? Reddit is set up that way. Once you get your first 10 upvotes, you get a bit more exposure. Reddit is so popular that the ratio to real users to bots or your "friends" is always heavily against you. So the more crap you shovel at Reddit, the more Reddit spits it out. Another weakness with upvote groups is that Reddit can probably notice when a bunch of people promote each other's stuff. They won't warn you or let you know that they're on to you, they will just remove the upvotes.

    It's a pretty tight system that isn't really all that vulnerable to abuse.

    A better strategy, if you know your stuff is good, is to just find compatible subreddits and have a few people drop your link. Then let the Reddit system work. If you're trying to build a YT channel, this can work great. If you're trying to sell a product..you're probably shit out of luck. That's just how Reddit is. I drove just over 10k hits with Reddit this month just by dropping my own links. No funny business required. (I do have my own sub, but none of that traffic came from there)

    Pro-tip: getting the first 10 likes within an hour or two is essential, so always make posts or add links during the daylight hours in the US. 2PM eastern time is great. You will know that you are posting quality when you start getting spontaneous upvotes, and really, it's a million times more effective than fake upvotes.

    Pro-tip 2: Don't just link to your own domain. Sub owners can see where you link to! If you have just been plastering your own domain all across Reddit, you *will* get shadowbanned.

    Keep in mind that each subreddit has its own rules. Always mind the rules, or you'll get shadowbanned. A shadowban can equal a lot of time and money lost, because you won't even know that you're banned. You will think that your stuff is live when it isn't actually being seen by anyone.

    I shadowbanned three jerks yesterday, actually. I didn't straight up ban them from my sub because I want them to keep wasting their time trying to spam me.

    Reddit is hard work, but it's worth it.
     
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  2. HoNeYBiRD

    HoNeYBiRD Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    you will, if you use this:
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    http://nullprogram.com/am-i-shadowbanned/
     
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    Great post. Totally agree about quality content. If you post come crap, then at best what you are getting is a little bit of free traffic. Mostly people are trying to game it for short term gains but i have 'manipulated' votes using a few accounts for one of my authority site, with highly informational relevant content and i have seen some amazing traffic (and the eventual Reddit hug).

    I also feel that, its essential to actively post on the subs you want to gain traffic from and become a decently active member there. Reddit is a great source of traffic if you put in the effort.
     
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  4. codexehow

    codexehow Power Member

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    Great tips, Somedevil. Absolutely agree. You really need to be an active Redditor if you want to "game" the system. People do check karma.

    Also, with AutoModerator, it's very easy to automatically shadowban anyone with -50 karma. Or -20 or w/e. So if all you post is spam, you're really not going to have a good chance of gaining traction.

    This is why, HoNeYBiRD , you can't rely on that tool alone. A mod can still prevent your posts from showing even if you aren't in the shadowban list. They can also use AutoModerator to prevent new accounts from making posts.
     
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  6. codexehow

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    Hey Bart.

    I've run several ads on Reddit. The traffic data never matches up exactly with Google, but I have seen concrete results. It's all about how you approach these people. They are young, smart and Web savvy. You can't just blatantly advertise to them. Best way to advertise there is to land them on quality content with laser targeting. That way, your sponsored post looks like a normal post that's been sticked.
     
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    reddit is one of those that I haven't tackled yet but probably will someday. But its always best I think to have good content.
     
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    Reddit is almost impossible to game
     
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    Reddit is almost impossible to short game. You can't join today, and start promoting your site by tonight. But following the plan of the OP and other suggestions above, it can be 'long' gamed.
     
  10. LoftPower

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    It's a great post, but you should emphasize more that it's related to crappy content!

    If interesting content gets a proper boost, the traffic that comes from reddit can set your server on fire (almost literally).
     
  11. Ali_Moslehi

    Ali_Moslehi Registered Member

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    I agree with you :)
    and our group is work very well ;) check this topic in BHW
     
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    Very useful info which you provided. Anyone here which try reddit ad service. Is there any conversion of product if I try it.