We have a few SEO clients (resellers) who were previsouly using hubshout. These clients came to us for two reasons. First, they were unhappy with what hubshout delivered, and second they were impressed with our development services. Yes, these were our existing clients for whom we were doing development work. When they approached us for SEO, we looked at what hubshout could achieve for them in six months time, after ripping off about $8000. It was pathetic. Their site was not ranking within 100, even for medium competition keywords! I was shocked. We took over gladly - and did a better job. it was easy. anyone could do better. I still can not digest that hubshout can charge so much and still not deliver. I believe hubshout can not go wrong. I must be missing something. If there is no rank improvement - there must be value delivered in some subtle form. Can you help me figure out what that value is? Or at least help me understand why people go to hubshout?