Why or Why wouldn't ebay accept this feature?

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There are so many new performance standards for sellers but it seems like hardly any for buyers.

It would be nice if ebay could create a feature that allows sellers to see a buyer's performance rating, too.
Not just their feedback because obviously now that is a mute point. Every buyer is going to have 100% positive feedback (still, what a dumb idea by ebay).

It would be nice to see how many times they have opened up a case (whether it be for items not received, item not as described, return request, order cancellations, etc.).

I do believe there is a stat or data on this that is only viewable for ebay employees but that doesn't help sellers if we can't know too.

For example: let's say a buyer opens up a case and claims they didn't receive their item (worth $30) and they want a refund. A seller would then be able to see that this particular buyer has only opened up 2 cases in the 12 months on 105 purchases. That alone would tell me as a seller that this buyer is legit and he's not trying to scam me, he doesn't have a history of doing this often, etc. Easy as pie, I would 100% trust this buyer as a honest one and would do everything I can to help them, including giving them a refund.

But let's say the buyer's history shows that this is the 8th open case they have opened this month alone out of just 15 orders, and they have opened 35 cases in the past year out of just 70 orders. This would obviously tell me he's a risky buyer, I wouldn't have allowed him to purchase from me in the first place, etc etc. They already have a feature in place where sellers can block buyers with no feedbacks or low feedback rating. So why can't we have a feature that would allow us to prevent buyers from buying from us if they have a history of opening up all kinds of cases at 50% rate?

It seems like a very useful feature and idea to me to help sellers sell to honest buyers and weed out the shady ones. Buyers should also be held to high standards too.

What I do now is every buyer that opens a case that I resolve and close by giving them a refund, I also report the buyer to ebay simply stating the above. I just mention that I'm not accusing the buyer of having done anything wrong because I don't know. I just wanted them to check if this buyer has a history of doing this often and maybe at risk of "abusing the money back guarantee policy". This wouldn't be necessary if they could just show us a buyer's detailed buying ratings/performance. Ebay probably doesn't even care or read my report. They have never replied ever. But when someone asks ebay to step in to resolve a case, someone responds and gets it done in 30 minutes! Sheesh.
 
eBay does not want you to see this information because for every scammer this weeds out, it will weed out 10 just picky people who are not scammers.
 
eBay does not want you to see this information because for every scammer this weeds out, it will weed out 10 just picky people who are not scammers.

Picky people? You mean people who have made 30 orders this month and opened 15 cases? That to me would be highly valuable information REGARDLESS if they were scammers or not. I don't care. It's the % (buyer performance rating) that I care about and I would NOT sell to a buyer who opened 15 cases this month. How is that any different from seller performance rating? If a seller is "below standard" because they have 3 defects out of 1000 transactions, that doesn't mean the seller is a scammer either. It's possible for good and honest sellers to unfortunately fall below standard. This feature would be highly valuable and useful and it would weed out both scammers and buyers with very sketchy/shady buying performance rating (or if you want to call it, 'habits').
 
Agree with this actually. I'm not an eBay seller myself (just a buyer), but this would definitely be valuable information for sellers to make informed decisions. However, there may be occasions in which a buyer purchases a dozen or so low ticket widgets which all have the same issue and need refunding / replacing, which could warp figures - so it would depend on how in-depth they were... I doubt eBay would show you what customers disputed specifically and nor should they.
 
Plus, if you are mostly sending low value items and you send it without tracking number, you can consider sending it with a tracking number so you have a case that you really sent it.
 
Picky people? You mean people who have made 30 orders this month and opened 15 cases?

There are VERY few of these people. In the big picture they do not matter. Why should eBay set their policy to help you at the expense of making less money for themselves?
 
Clearly eBay doesn't want us to make informed decisions.
I don't see why they would want us to treat specific buyers differently then others.
That wouldn't look good for PR, and would likely even catch a few innocents in the process.

They aren't exactly trying to push buyers off their platform, even the trouble ones.
It's also not like any of that would actually have any affect on policy or case enforcement anyway.
i.e. even if you cancel an order for a problematic buyer, it would still hit your metrics.
 
There are so many new performance standards for sellers but it seems like hardly any for buyers.

It would be nice if ebay could create a feature that allows sellers to see a buyer's performance rating, too.
Not just their feedback because obviously now that is a mute point. Every buyer is going to have 100% positive feedback (still, what a dumb idea by ebay).

It would be nice to see how many times they have opened up a case (whether it be for items not received, item not as described, return request, order cancellations, etc.).

I do believe there is a stat or data on this that is only viewable for ebay employees but that doesn't help sellers if we can't know too.

For example: let's say a buyer opens up a case and claims they didn't receive their item (worth $30) and they want a refund. A seller would then be able to see that this particular buyer has only opened up 2 cases in the 12 months on 105 purchases. That alone would tell me as a seller that this buyer is legit and he's not trying to scam me, he doesn't have a history of doing this often, etc. Easy as pie, I would 100% trust this buyer as a honest one and would do everything I can to help them, including giving them a refund.

But let's say the buyer's history shows that this is the 8th open case they have opened this month alone out of just 15 orders, and they have opened 35 cases in the past year out of just 70 orders. This would obviously tell me he's a risky buyer, I wouldn't have allowed him to purchase from me in the first place, etc etc. They already have a feature in place where sellers can block buyers with no feedbacks or low feedback rating. So why can't we have a feature that would allow us to prevent buyers from buying from us if they have a history of opening up all kinds of cases at 50% rate?

It seems like a very useful feature and idea to me to help sellers sell to honest buyers and weed out the shady ones. Buyers should also be held to high standards too.

What I do now is every buyer that opens a case that I resolve and close by giving them a refund, I also report the buyer to ebay simply stating the above. I just mention that I'm not accusing the buyer of having done anything wrong because I don't know. I just wanted them to check if this buyer has a history of doing this often and maybe at risk of "abusing the money back guarantee policy". This wouldn't be necessary if they could just show us a buyer's detailed buying ratings/performance. Ebay probably doesn't even care or read my report. They have never replied ever. But when someone asks ebay to step in to resolve a case, someone responds and gets it done in 30 minutes! Sheesh.

I'm not eBayer but that would hurt sales.

Sure, you may realize that people abuse "Not received item" but when that case is listed on the seller's side, it hurts sales regardless if the buyer likes to abuse it - simple as that.

In any industry, negative outweighs the positive a lot and will hurt sales - regardless if it's actually the sellers fault or not.
 
It's all bout them $$$ bud. eBay makes money even if you get scammed.

Remember they're in business to make money. Not to make sure you don't get scammed.
 
It's all bout them $$$ bud. eBay makes money even if you get scammed.

Remember they're in business to make money. Not to make sure you don't get scammed.

If businesses operated this way, they would fall quickly. This is short-term thinking.

Putting customers first above making money, will make you more money in the long-run in many cases.
If eBay didn't care at all about scammers, it would not be a pleasant experience and people would NOT shop there.

If you got scammed by a store - you wouldn't buy there again would you?


Luka
 
If businesses operated this way, they would fall quickly. This is short-term thinking.

Putting customers first above making money, will make you more money in the long-run in many cases.
If eBay didn't care at all about scammers, it would not be a pleasant experience and people would NOT shop there.

If you got scammed by a store - you wouldn't buy there again would you?


Luka


It's not the customers that are getting scammed. It's the vendors. The customers usually always win PayPal disputes so they keep using eBay. Think about it. The opportunity to make money online is what keeps vendors coming back. Tell me the last time you saw an ad to sell on eBay. They never market to vendors. They know the vendors will come, so they don't care if they piss them off.

I'm in no way supporting this business practice. I WANT the vendors to finally have a gauge to determine the risk of selling an item. I'm just explaining why they don't have a feature to this implemented already.
 
So the over-arching and sovereign rule here is that "Ebay can do what they want" because it's their own company?
Yes, I agree that vendors will always keep coming to ebay because they can make sales there and so no advertising is needed
to bring them. But customers are what matters to Ebay because that's where the money is made. If customers do not feel safe
or can't trust ebay, they won't shop there and ebay will lose money and go out of business. So I can understand that point. It's ebay's
company, they can make up whatever rules they want and we the sellers, pretty much get screwed, but still sell here because it is
the best option for most of us. We are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Yes, I also agree that for the most part, ebay customers are honest. I can attest to that. So I guess my original suggestion was
meant for an ideal world. It's the "right" answer that I proposed, but it may not be the right one to make a company the most money.

It's very simple logic to me. If a seller is judged on their selling performance rating and HISTORY, buyers should also be judged on their
buying performance rating and HISTORY. We'd be able to weed out scammers and scrupulous sellers AND buyers making it a safer
place overall for everyone.

What sort of standards or performance requirements are held for the buyer? So are they allowed to make 20 purchases in a month
and open up cases for 15 of them and not be flagged as fishy or suspicious? If there is such a policy or rule for buyers, I haven't heard or seen one. I'd appreciate it if anyone could give me a link that shows such a system exists that monitors buyers behavior and habits.

If Ebay is actually saying that "we prefer to have more scammers that are buyers than scammers that are sellers", then I've found my
answer. That's all I'm really looking for. I still think being able to see a rating/score or history of the buyer would be very helpful. I would not want to sell to anyone who has opened up many cases. But as of right now, we have no idea who's a reliable buyer and who has a history of being a difficult buyer. Maybe it's better to just be a difficult buyer and get a lot of freebies off ebay when my selling career is over with on ebay.
 
Ebay cares only for seller. Sellers will be always around. Even if you get scammed and complain here. Will you stop selling now? Another seller will sell same product..
 
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