Why I hate money making methods

100% man, I tried zillions of money-making methods, and with that, I realized that the only way to earn money is to provide value and sell something that you love doing.

MR.Spuf said:

So let me understand this: You didn't create any service whatsoever in your life, you haven't create neither a product, but your (untested by yourself) theory should be approached cause you feel that's the right way?!?

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Not at all correct.

Ive create unique systems using services and products which themselves were not unique to me. You asked if Ive created 100% unique services or products, so I answered no, the services themselves were not invented by me, that doesnt mean Ive never sold any.

Youre confusing systems (aka models aka methods) with services.

The service is what is being sold, the system is how you sell it. For example, two people can offer the same google review, but their business and the "methods" which they use to monetize the google review service can be entirely different.

So again, while I do not claim that everyone should invent brand new products and services, and neither have I done so myself, the systems and methods they use to monetize will be less valuable if copied from somebody else.

whitepeachsnacklordo said:

Not at all correct.

Ive create unique systems using services and products which themselves were not unique to me. You asked if Ive created 100% unique services or products, so I answered no, the services themselves were not invented by me, that doesnt mean Ive never sold any.

Youre confusing systems (aka models aka methods) with services.

The service is what is being sold, the system is how you sell it. For example, two people can offer the same google review, but their business and the "methods" which they use to monetize the google review service can be entirely different.

So again, while I do not claim that everyone should invent brand new products and services, and neither have I done so myself, the systems and methods they use to monetize will be less valuable if copied from somebody else.

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You're beating around the bush big time!

Deleted member 15724 said:

When I first came on BHW, there were methods you could copy word for word right now, and start making money within 30 minutes. With how big BHW (and IM in general) became, it would be foolish to put out anything that could get saturated overnight.

With that said, those BHW methods got me to where I am today. There's things that I learned years ago, hidden gems deep in BHW that's part of my strategy to this day. I think it's great to take inspiration from other people, strategies that work or were working to expand your thought process.

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Same. 10+ years ago on BHW, there were many awesome CPA, craigslist, ewh0ring methods, email submits, yahoo answers, twitter, SEO, content locking, etc.

It's how I made my first big money. Viral facebook fanpages got me to my first 6 figures.

However, many of those methods generated only like $20-30 a day. And if you scaled, it wasn't guaranteed to last in the long run. They were great tactics to get you started, but NOT to build a foundation on.

OP has a point. Many of these tactics, especially if given away by someone else, won't last in the long run (i know if i make good money, i am NOT sharing the exact tactic. i might share the overall strategy, but that's it. why introduce competition?). And the tactics i see these days are... not so good.. The peak of 'make money' BHW methods was 2008-2011.

Nowadays I'm building a real business selling a high ticket service - with branding, PR, organic social, paid media, SEO, email marketing, - all thanks to the knowledge and money I first learned from BHW.

However, there's not a lot of great content here on building your own business. But BHW is excellent for getting started as a newbie.

BHW is also perfect for its marketplace.. so many good SEO services, proxies, software, etc.

I also think 10+years ago there were so many methods and opportunities to make money, that you didn't have to worry about the competition. New traffic methods were always popping up, and people didn't have the software or knowledge to saturate a niche to death.

Nowadays, there's only like 3-4 social media networks and the big G SEO. The landscape has stagnated. Thus, it's dangerous to share any working method, since everyone is going to the same few traffic sources, and everyone can utilize software/knowledge to saturate it to death (e.g. i have a method to getting tons of leads on reddit. that method will never die unless reddit makes a big change, but if i shared it, then I'm just shooting myself in the foot).

But that also spells opportunity. Because if you can master those few social media networks and SEO (and they are NOT going anywhere for at least the next 5+ years), then you will have a very long lasting and sustainable business.

whitepeachsnacklordo said:

Theres always all these methods, these "ways to make money". As if simply being aware of their existence is the difference between poverty and prosperity.

We are all entrepreneurs here. Freelancers, hustlers, businessmen, whatever you call yourself. We dont this for money, though we might say we do. We do this because we refuse to allow a system control the way we survive. We dont depend on anyone, we do things ourselves.

So by that logic, why would you have your financial success be dependent on the existence of some trick that someone else found for you? What, without them youre going to starve? All the best decisions come with a calm, confident mind. And the only way to be confident is knowing that no matter what, you can always think your own way out of trouble and figure things out yourself.

The true and only correct way to "make money" is to create one. I believe in conceptual ability, not skilled ability. Following a cookie cutter recipe might work for a bit, but understanding how things work and why they work, to a point where you can make money from literally anywhere, will make you immune to failure in the long run.

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I believe you are quite confuse between good methods and toxic positivity and grifter on the internet

I'm doing education area; I love to help students, school and teacher.... but Im ngl is not easy... however pretty profitable.
As an example I just develop one game or one lesson and you will sale multiple times because educators doesn't have enough time to research, so as soon you get some traction and confidence you start to have something money

My 2 worst problems: fix all the problems on the website and automatize my social contend with quality. And this are taking me couple months

So make money online is possible ? yes
Is it easy? No

Method is simply information. Someone have some knowledge and share it..

So, are we questioning why people should share their knowledge? And why others should learn from it?

If human race had followed your logic, we would not have moved past the stone age!

obabo said:

I believe you are quite confuse between good methods and toxic positivity and grifter on the internet

I'm doing education area; I love to help students, school and teacher.... but Im ngl is not easy... however pretty profitable.
As an example I just develop one game or one lesson and you will sale multiple times because educators doesn't have enough time to research, so as soon you get some traction and confidence you start to have something money

My 2 worst problems: fix all the problems on the website and automatize my social contend with quality. And this are taking me couple months

So make money online is possible ? yes
Is it easy? No

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KHer0 said:

Method is simply information. Someone have some knowledge and share it..

So, are we questioning why people should share their knowledge? And why others should learn from it?

If human race had followed your logic, we would not have moved past the stone age!

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Guys you are literally agreeing with most of what I am saying. Please see the replies on this post, your concerns have already been answered.

As long as does exists demands for making money methods, there will always be such methods.

If someone has a money-making methods that makes a lot of money, he won't sell it. Why would he?
Unless for a very huge price, it is illogical.

All these ebooks and methods, can give you a hint. What you can do in this niche, what people are doing. What tools you might want to use.

But it's just that, the hard part is doing it, marketing it, being consistent etc.

If I buy ebook, it's to get a very fast grasp of what is going on over there. What people are doing in this place to make money.
But you can't really just implement it and make money 1-1.

But in the end, I believe the key is the mindset. There is some luck, there is something about using the right method etc.
BUT if you have the right mindset, if you believe in yourself and actually work HARD. A lot is possible.

A lot of us went through:
I never made money on my own, this won't work, it's not possible.
Then you get a little taste of success. You make your first 10$.

NOW your mindset is changed, you start to believe in it, something unlocks. You want to even invest for higher yield.
ITS SO CRAZY, HOW MUCH MINDSET MATTERS IMO.

Some of us look for perfect money making method, validation that it can be done, cause we don't believe we can do it.
Others just go and DO IT.

Actually, I am still not quite there. Im trying to transition from the first mindset to the second one. In the process right now.
Once I fully achieve the second mindset, I believe I will become UNSTOPPABLE MONEY-MAKING MONSTER.


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