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Why does everyone write complete NEW content/articles?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by Mcgyyver, Apr 5, 2017.

  1. Mcgyyver

    Mcgyyver Junior Member

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    Why do people not find quality content from different sites and combine the content into one article? Like, there must be many pages which offer great content yet aren't ranked high because of low traffic or bad backlinks etc.

    Is creating FRESH content really needed to rank better?
     
  2. patriotnews

    patriotnews Senior Member

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    Lots of people do your idea, ever read an Amazon review site?
    Hell, I have filler content on one site just straight control-c/control-v, and I outrank the original source.
     
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    You can also search for content curation that'll give you better idea as well.
     
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    I once bought an article to try from someone ( not here on BHW ) and they had done that, a cut and shut ( as they call doing it with cars). What the idiot hadn't done was proofed it before sending me the Word doc, as it had 2 different fonts used.
     
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  5. Dotte

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    Some people would be better off in McDonald's than trying to be a self-employed bullshitter. If you aren't providing original value to the reader, Google doesn't want you.. stop looking for shortcuts, and do the work.
     
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    Yes, fresh Content Increases your authority potential and keep your audience Informed and to remain updated. Having fresh and new content on a frequent basis will help to earn a large number of visitors. So, stay focussed on creating fresh content not combining content from other sites.
     
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  7. MakeGreenM8

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    Well duplicate content will hurt you unless you are driving paid traffic or traffic from a parasite page. IF that is the case you take content that converts and use it for yourself.

    I'd still highly recommend learning how to research and make your own quality content so that you know a good outsourcer from a shitty outsourcer.... this will open doors for you.


    UP to u mate see what happens. Don't take our word for it.
     
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  8. patriotnews

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    So, if I have content just straight copy/paste, Google won't love me in the SERPs?
    I wouldn't be able to rank higher in the SERPs than the source?

    I mean, how will it "hurt me" to do it?
    Better yet, is that what is meant by duplicate content?

    What about sites like Indeed and Glassdoor and other job search websites, lots of duplicate content, yet they seem to be loved?
    Content syndication, multiple news channels, all posting the same stuff. Those sources don't seem to be hurting.

    Hmm... Makes me wonder about this "duplicate content" thing you warn of.
     
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  9. MakeGreenM8

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    So you literally copy and paste and Google doesn't care? That is cool then. Thanks for sharing your experience, maybe I waste my time getting original content. I base the "hurt me" statement on the fact that my original articles outperform my content that is spun. Since then I've updated all my articles and they have risen to pages 1 and 2. Most were chilling on the edge of page three. Disclaimer: these sites are 8 months old. It could be the mystical "sandbox"

    Personally, I'm not risking it on my long term sites. That's why I'll only copy and paste for my churn and burn sites. But the ultimate factor I look at is my CTR's to Amazon. They're higher for my original articles. That's all I care about. ;)

    Thanks for the discussion I look forward to learning with you guys
     
  10. patriotnews

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    I have a news auto-blog(no spinning), 2yrs old now, not a single piece of original content, not even the static pages(which are copy/paste from Wikipedia).
    It ranks in top 5 for viral news within minutes of posting.
    This was a new site when I started it, and my backlinks would make most people cringe(50,000 GSA blast directly to site, 10,000 blog comments, 1,000 shitty web2s).
    I couldn't tell you how this site has survived, let alone ranks.

    I have another site that posts 200 job postings a day, pulled via indeed api, so straight copied content. The blog section has approx 100 articles, which is a mix of copy/paste(some expired, some directly from active competitors), PLR(spun and unspun), and original written content. This site ranks well, for 3 keywords, it ranks above the active site I copy pasted from.
    This site was also new, never used, when registered 2.5yrs ago.
    I haven't build a link in over a yr, I just auto-syndicate all content to 4 social media profiles, 4 social bookmarking sites, and 5 web2s. I used to blast those properties with 100,000GSA blasts with url shorteners, but haven't done that in a year.
    That site ranks well for many keywords and draws about 10,000 visitors from organic(including from many of the copy/paste articles).

    A month ago I started a site on an expired domain(15RDs: bloomburg, business weekly, motley fool to name a few), which I only used that domain because I had it laying around for a yr and needed a brandable domain for this project. I have only built links from my Facebook fanpage so far, and that page only has 3 likes at the moment.
    I have uploaded 300 PLR articles(no spinning) about a specific broad niche and interlinked it like Wikipedia(15 per post avg). I am planning another 1,000 posts of PLR content(no spinning).
    It has been getting about 30 unique views a day for the past week.
    This site has been built specifically for marketing on social media, so I never cared about the SERPs, just started peeping it for fun.

    These are just some examples of sites where I have completely unoriginal content, that were build for social projects and have somehow ended up ranking well, or growing their ranking.

    I am only working on 1 Amazon affiliate site right now, but it is all original content(outsourced). I could see how that would help in conversions.
    So, yeah, your monetization strategy matters a lot, because some generic content just won't convert worth a shit for Amazon, but is great for other advertising.
     
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  11. MakeGreenM8

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    Thank You for dropping knowledge and your experience. I can see you've been in the IM trenches quite a bit. As I make more money and gain more experience I'll probably get more of a stomach for risk on my main two money sites.

    That is a good idea to practice SEO on a site you mostly market through social media. Makes me think I'd be smart to try that too.

    So far my test sites are lame little installs on $9 mo. hosting. I just rank for each for a random niche's long-tails that only have about 20-50 searches a month. There's no monetization. They seem like hobby sites to the outside world. These are merely for practice.

    The other thing I do is try to see for myself what the sites for the big money keywords(vapes, gambling, payday loans, etc.) are doing in terms of backlinking, onpage optimization and keyword targeting. I use SemRush, ahrefs and ose to try to see as many links as possible. Then I peek at them with my own eyes to get a feel for the types of links they have.

    Having hundreds of quality referring domains seems to still be one of the biggest factors. I've found a few that are using cheaper sounding 700-1200 word articles. They make up for it in terms of conversion by having strong call to actions and nice visuals. Seems they still can rank and bank...

    How efficient is this in terms of learning the ins and outs of SEO? Could I be trying anything differently?
     
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    This weirdo.... i though this "Scrapping content" from other sites and using it to rank.

    i paraphrase!! LOL
     
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    OMG, that's me on your avatar.
     
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  14. patriotnews

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    The backlinks a niche site can tolerate are also highly dependent on the niche. Certain niches the backlinks are spammy as shit, including some of the ones you listed.
    Check the backlinks to true authority sites as well, in some hard niches that aren't as competitive, like home improvement, gardening, green energy, and such.
    I design my backlink strategy on the niche I am entering. One niche I am targeting from one of my current authority site projects is dominated by BIG sites(1,000+ posts) with poor inter-linking, and most of the backlinks are blog and forum contents, where the site owners interact. So my backlinking plan is I make 15 blog comments per post, 2 forum links per post, and 1 Q&A per post. After a month, I fire 5 web2s at it, and backlink those with GSA or bulk PublicBlogNetworks. I also work hard on inter-linking my posts Wikipedia style, and I have been noticing my rankings climb in that niche, when my site is build to target a much broader niche overall.

    My practice sites are on unlimited $20 month hosting(currently hosting 12 sites). And if they start to grow, I transfer them off of that hosting.

    I don't just practice SEO on sites I am marketing on social media, I make social media 50-75% of my marketing plan for every site. YouTube is the 2nd most commonly used search engine, you better be active. Facebook traffic is regularly discussed here. Pinterest is a common topic for traffic as well. Check the journey threads here, Instagram will drive you mad. What does that tell you? SEO is never dead, just constantly changing. So build a social network around your SEO plans, build one, then the other.
    But don't worry about Google memorizing every bit of content in the web, just step up your game.
     
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  15. MakeGreenM8

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    Edit: basic grammar

    - Wow this is a great post too. You made me open my eyes to how I've been minded with my social media. Honestly, I was looking at it as a small supplement to my traditional technical SEO.(onpage(interlinking, h1/alt tags, anchors, site structure), backlinks, and keywords)

    - That's savvy to check the non competitive niche's backlink profiles too. I've been cookie cutterish in my approach to link building thinking all links must be nearly perfect. I never thought in the context of the niche.

    - I treat most of my practice sites like punching bags. I should actually make an honest effort in growing viable sites instead of just ranking. At least I practiced something though. Thank you for sharing what you do to test your sites. It is the one thing barely anyone talks about. They seem to usually just parrot the same crap they read on a blog or forum without testing. You're not one of those, I appreciate that immensely.

    - Until now I've been giving 15% attention to my social sites. I've completely neglected Pinterest and YouTube. That's changing now.

    - Thanks have a good one, I have nothing more to say. This is great insight to digest for a novice like me. Time to apply it. Glad I joined this place. :D
     
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  16. patriotnews

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    I have learned everything I know from reading posts here and testing.
    I haven't been in IM for long, about 6 months before I joined here.
    Feel free to hit me up if you have any questions.
     
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    You've misunderstood what duplicate content is. Duplicate content penalties only apply to the same site where very similar content is displayed. There are tons of sites that use syndicated (duplicate) content that rank well the the SE's.

    HTH

    Glenn
     
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    Do you do the interlinking of post manually or you employ the use of plugins. Can you recommend free plugins that can interlink posts like what is obtained in wikipedia.
     
  19. patriotnews

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    On my auto-blog I don't interlink articles, just a related post plugin at the end of content, based upon category (which is pulled from source)
    On my regular sites I interlink Wikipedia style manually.
     
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    Completely agree, not to mention that coping someone's content and using it as yours is stealing.