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Why do you use black hat? (flame war)

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by person03, Jun 9, 2014.

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  1. person03

    person03 Registered Member

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    I'm wondering aren't we nuff of those ads flying everywhere over our heads while browsing? we made now PPC PPI AND PPD and many more, isn't it enough that we can't now read twitter happily without seeing 99% of the tweets are fake/ads and all the replies are automated bots advertising...

    Seriously, forums like this has ruined the internet, but at the same time its the main income for many of us, I'm not against blackhat but idk seriously, we are enough of this! there is just like 20k real sites around the globe, and 50 billion fakes :/

    i'm sad, but still i've learnt a lot from blackhatting

    I've sad news too, but good for me, that I've quit blackhat.

    Share ur opinion!
     
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    congrats on quitting blackhat
     
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    Matt Cutts, is that you?
     
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    Just wondering exactly how much sympathy you actually expected ?
     
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    How many fucks I give about this ? 1 2 .... o shit they flew away.
     
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    many users here on BHW build real sites that actually help people a lot. It's not all spam and fake :).
     
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    Q: Why Do You Use Blackhat?

    A: Because It Makes Us A Shit Load Of Money
     
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    It's just that if we knew that white hat site will bring us money, we would do them more. The fact is, that with google updates and everything else, white hat is hard, takes a lot of time and doesn't quarantee anything. With blackhat, it's also a hit and miss but it's a lot faster and easier.

    As spamming the internet, well.. most of the fake stuff is for people looking a way to screw the system in the first place. There are no free lunches.
     
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    you're being completely ignorant (it's okay, we all were at one point). stop focusing on the negative and focus on the positive, it'll make it easier to live. there is a ton of blackhat sites but nobody visits them because they're crap. "blackhatters" actually make very little income in cotrast to "whitehatters" (media buyers, email marketers, branding advertisers).

    the evolution of an internet marketer looks like this:

    stage 1: the blackhatter. as a noob you shy away from whitehat methods because you're broke, and you look up to fellow blackhatters because you think they're gods for making $1k a day.
    stage 2: adapt or die. when you succeed doing blackhat/spammy methods, you make a ton of money, but you then realize that the big ballers in this industry convert to whitehat methods.
    stage 3: whitehat. buying traffic. PPV, PPC, media buys, mobile, adult, and email marketing. making your first $100/day is the hardest part in this stage. scaling to $10k/day is easy once you can get $100/day. just buy more traffic and optimize your conversion funnel. simple. of course, owning your own product in the whitehat stage is the most important thing you can do. i've had $200/day campaigns on facebook ads only to have the offer pulled down the day after. Don't rely too much on affiliate marketing. This truly sucks balls. Figure out how these offer owners construct their conversion funnels, work backwards, put it back together, and create your own offers. if they can do it, you can too.

    It's all a process, but it's one hell of a ride, and a fun one too when you look back at it. I remember joining in 2009 thinking that anyone who made a pitiful $100/day was a baller and i'd be satisfied for the rest of my life if I made that kind of money. However, $100/day in income is nothing (of course it's life changing for some, but when you've reached that point, it's not enough to live comfortably or to live a baller lifestyle that many enjoy). If you visited me in 2009 and told me you'd give me $100/day if I quit IM for the rest of my life, I'd be ecstatic and take the offer because IM seemed intimidating to me as a noob. However, that would be stupid, because if that offer of giving me $100/day and quitting IM were real, from 2009 to this day in 2014 that $100/day still wouldn't match the income I've made to this date.

    I've made 6 figures with blackhat methods but you realize, like all other "successful blackhatters," that the methods used to make this money are pathetic. They're unstable because you have little control, nobody really needs the spam you're throwing at the wall, and the barrier to entry is low enough that anyone else can copy what you're doing. Oh, and it's never really passive too, so a lot of time goes into blackhat method maintenance. What a waste.

    The real ballers do 5 figures a day in large-scale media buys and email drops by selling products that people go crazy for or a service that people actually need.

    You've won the IM game when you've passed the $5 million threshold.

    oh, and noobs, don't PM me for help. i'll simply tell you to go fk yourself :) If you're cut out for IM, you'll make it on your own, regardless of what I tell you.
     
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    gbmack can you help me?
     
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    I use blackhat so I won't use other "darker" methods such as hacking/phishing/scamming etc. It suits me, I can sleep at night with what I'm doing and there's also the $$$ thing :)
     
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    if you not like internet spam then you can simply stop using it.
    no need to make a viral lounge thread.
    -=-
     
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    White hat gets you $ in X months.
    Black hat gets you $$$$ in X days/weeks
     
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    take his example! you should all quit blackhatting while you still can or else you're going to hell. Mark my words!!! There is the hell for blackhatters with blackjack and hookers
     
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    Hey, this guy's trying to trick us so he can keep all the blackjack and hookers for himself.

    Sharing is caring. jerk
     
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    I stumbled on this site to learn about marketing in general, personally, I am desperate enough to see neither black or white, only grey.. I wish everyone here a spam free future...