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Why do you need RankerX in combination with GSA SER?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by ThePozatoOne, Feb 15, 2017.

  1. ThePozatoOne

    ThePozatoOne Junior Member

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    RankerX is $50 while GSA is $100. it seems that people use rankerx for tier 1 property creation and GSA for other tiers. Why is that? Is ranker x so inferior in tier 2 link building that you need a tool that costs 100% more?

    Is it enough to own only ranker x + captcha breaker + an article spinner + proxy list and URL list?
     
  2. Peter Ngo

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    They are 2 very different tools.

    RankerX are mostly used to build higher quality web 2.0s and properties which GSA SER is weak at.

    GSA SER is used to build shit ton of spammy links for lower tiers, which Ranker X is weak at.

    RankerX is 30$ per month, not $50 lifetime.
     
  3. ThePozatoOne

    ThePozatoOne Junior Member

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    damn, i thought it was a lifetime licence.

    I guess homemade SEO isn't for peasants lol.
     
  4. Peter Ngo

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    Actually the cost of having all those tool up is high too, you can't use captcha breaker with RankerX since Captcha Breaker can't break recaptcha. proxies and all that stuffs.

    I don't use it that often anymore so i just outsource all that.
     
  5. 710fla

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    Pretty much this.

    People use both in tiered link building. Web 2.0s generally stay alive way longer than article links created in GSA.

    Of course running GSA also means buying GSA Captcha Breaker, semi-dedicated proxies ($10/month), VPS ($21/month), and catchall email ($5)

    So you better know how to setup a successful campaign and make your money worth it. I have GSA running 24/7 on filtered verified lists I scrape myself. No chinese/russian links and less chance of hitting low quality domains.
     
  6. ThePozatoOne

    ThePozatoOne Junior Member

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    Damn. What kind of keywords do you rank for? are you using the tools for personal benefit or selling packages on marketplaces?
     
  7. 710fla

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    @ThePozatoOne

    Well right now I'm building PBNs mostly, mainly use GSA to boost up my web 2.0s.

    I use it to rank my own sites.

    Using both RankerX + GSA you should be able to rank for low to medium competition keywords. Look at the top 3 search results and see if they are powerful domains. You might need a couple PBN links to really break through to top 3 for more difficult keywords.

    RankerX in tier 1 along with some GSA to dilute the anchor text.

    For tier 2 I build RankerX + GSA links to the web 2.0s created by RankerX and build GSA links to the first tier GSA links.

    You can expect your GSA links to slowly start going down, as many sites shut down or delete your page. That's why GSA is better used for lower tiers.

    Imagine if you built a GSA article link in your tier 1 with 1000 tier 2 links and then your tier 1 links goes down. That's time down the drain

    Better building large amounts of tier 2 links to a tier 1 web 2.0 that will last for much longer (1 year or more)
     
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  8. waltersweb

    waltersweb Registered Member

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    Sounds reasonable. So you mainly rely on PBNs? And have web 2.0s as Tier 1 alongside your (hidden?) PBNs? Do you also use GSA etc. to build Tieres to your PBNs?
    I heard that these days G is targeting PBNs more. Did you feel some kind of impact of that?
    Thanks :)
     
  9. Shaunm

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    As pretty much covered already but just to give you an idea of the numbers game behind this.

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    Basically I have 7 T1 manual links in this one, each of the projects with a 0 in their submitted column is T2 links made in RX for a specific T1 and each of the mass links are SER links as T3.

    As RX required human solved captchas the majority of the time SER links save money, additionally, the SER templates can smash links out crazy fast but the premium social networks in RX have additional steps involved making it harder to build massive link outputs.
     
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  10. bekemew

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    I also tested things like: Rankerx Tier 1, Gsa tier 2/3 vs Manual Tier 1 vs RankerX tier 2 vs Gsa tier 3 and other such variations. Everything was working fine.

    Now, I'm doing some testing:
    • Manual Tier 1(only use expired domains/PBNs), RankerX Tier 2/3
    • Manual Tier 1(only use expired domains/PBNs), GSA Tier 2/3
    • RankerX Tier 1/2/3
    Hope to see the rest of the results soon.
     
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  11. waltersweb

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    Thanks for posting this Shaun, but I dont quite get the colums?
    And those 7 manual links are those manual Web2.0s or PBN?
    Are you guys using expired Web2.0 somehow?
    Thanks
     
  12. JustUs

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    Different people use the tools in different manners. I have never subscribed to RankerX. When I looked at it, I was unimpressed.

    I have most of the GSA tools. This is about a $400 investment. SER, Captcha-Breaker, SEO indexer, Redirect, Proxy Scraper, and so on. I haave and do use SER for tier 1. If you set it up right, it does a fair job. Probably not as good as RankerX, but it does the job. If tier one is that important, then I do it by hand. By hand is better than RankerX can do, but is also much more time consuming. Outside of the GSA products, I have Scrapebox, which is probably the most important tool for a large number of reasons. I also have GScraper, but since the developer is no longer supporting it, I do not find it to be valuable even though I have stripped out the protections and of the program. I have never liked SeNuke, it is overpriced and under performing.

    Scrapebox has premium addons that allow you to spin articles, track rank, and the like. For spinning articles, I generally use X-spinner.
     
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    The left hand numbers are submitted, the right are verified links.

    They are just manual Web 2.0 with human wrote content.
     
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    @bekemew I started ranking with expired web 2.0s, then moved into building links with GSA, now I mainly use my time to build PBNs.

    Yes, I use web 2.0s in my tier 1 to my moneysite. If it's a site you really value I suggest you build manual web 2.0s and make them look real. Main reason because if you start ranking for really competitive keywords other website owners may look into your link profile and report all your web 2.0s.

    But if its not my money site I use RankerX or GSA SEREngines to build the tier 1 web 2.0s. I like GSA SEREngines better solely because the themes on the web 2.0s are chosen at random. But they only have a handful of engines at the moment.

    I use spun content from SEO Content Machine on my web 2.0s, just scan it for any big errors and delete those chunks. I know many people are going to disagree and say only use hand-written content on web 2.0s, but everyone has their own opinion. My articles are 99% unique and at least 1000 words.

    No, I wouldn't suggest you use GSA directly on your PBN, since it already has powerful links to begin with. If you really want you can build or buy some web 2.0s as a tier 1 for your PBN and then beef those web 2.0s up with GSA contextual links.

    As for Google cracking down on PBNs, I'm not worried. How is Google going to tell if it's a real website or PBN? Yes there are many factors but that's why you need to really design your PBN as a real site. Social media accounts, advertisements, press releases. Don't just post 500 word articles in every post. Post pictures or a YouTube video along with a small description.

    And also there will always be other methods besides PBN. SEO is always evolving, just need to do your own testing as see what gets you ranking. I play it safe on my money site, but have multiple others tests going on other domains. That way I get to be more aggressive with the link building and don't care if my site tanks, as long as I get a return in profit.
     
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  15. bekemew

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    +1 voted. But if you can build auto web 2.0s and make them look real, it will save your time. I used Private Networks to manage web 2.0's and rank on #1, #2 places in Google with RankerX + blasting tier 3 with GSA. I created inner pages and created backlinks with DIFFERENT KEYWORDS every time. For example if I want to rank "my keywords" - the first campaign - 14 days is for the keywords: my keywords ranking, my keywords check, check my keywords ranking, etc. - a lot, a lot of different LSI keywords - this is kind of a guarantee!

    Quality backlinks are a great factor. Google now is doing another update (I am so tired of them) and it really wants to get rid of the junk! So the link building most be done very carefully! And my opinion is: First - great on page optimized site, then steady link building
     
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    And what kind of links do you build in gsa as 2&3rd tier?
     
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    Contextual links in both 2&3nd tier. Meaning articles, wikis, forum profiles and posts, social network articles, and social network profiles.

    I send the 2nd tier to an indexing service and index the 3rd tier with blog comments to save money on indexing credits.

    http://shaunmarrs.com/profile-and-forum-contextual/

    Read this post on turning your social network and forum profiles into contextual links. I've learned a huge chunk from the guy who runs the blog. He's a member here, I suggest you read through the other posts.
     
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  18. 710fla

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    I agree, LSI is important when ranking. And yes, if you can automatically build web 2.0s that look real than even better.

    I hate how RankerX leaves the default theme on every site along with the initial welcome post though. Huge footprint in my opinion.

    GSA SEREngines randomizes the theme and deletes the initial post. Still in beta though.
     
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    Avoid using ranker X at all. Everyone and their mother uses it for tier 1's which is why it will never help you get a serp rise unless you have added your own custom sites (which is ridiculously hard)
     
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    Okay thanks a lot, was a very informative link :) what anchor text % distribution do you use on T2 and T3?