1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Why do sites created using the twentyten theme rank so well?

Discussion in 'Blogging' started by pucky, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. pucky

    pucky Junior Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2010
    Messages:
    151
    Likes Received:
    45
    Since Wordpress came out with the twentyten default theme for WP 3.0+ i see a ton of sites created using this theme to rank extremely well.

    I dont understand why. Even bran new sites that have no content rank very high. Why does google love this theme so much?

    There has to be a reason and really other than using it i cant figure it out.

    My site has 200+ backlinks in a niche yet a twentyten site that has no content ranks at the very top. All the guy did was put wordpress theme online but he has done nothing else.

    I will have to do a test to find out why these themes rank so high with little to no effort.

    What so special about this theme?
    Iv looked at the code, there is nothing spectacular there
    Only thing i see is the tagging system it uses is slightly better than the others otherwise is simple and basic

    Unless your blind, you should have noticed these themes ranking very high for all niches.
     
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2011
  2. Johnnyfox

    Johnnyfox Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2010
    Messages:
    381
    Likes Received:
    332
    Occupation:
    Whatever I want
    Location:
    Looking down at the top of your mom's head
    Lol, I thought I was the only one seeing this. I am not sure why it ranks so well. There has to be a reason that WP made it the default instead of the Kubrick of 2009 (I think that was it).

    It seems like the sites I see doing well with it are pretty basic, and not really well done, leading me to think it really is the theme.

    I have seen a few that made it look really nice though. You can make a custom header, etc without having to eff around with the php files.

    I am going to start using it more now that you reminded me how good it does. We may never know why it works so well, but I am just going to start using the sh*t out of it.
     
  3. tormur

    tormur Newbie

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2009
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    3
    It doesn't really make sense that this theme would help a site rank well. I might try it out on a couple sites I've been neglecting and don't rank for anything...certainly couldn't hurt.
     
  4. fatboy

    fatboy Elite Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2008
    Messages:
    1,618
    Likes Received:
    3,229
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Old Peoples Home
    Never realised that a choice of template would change the way a SE would look at you.
    Glad I read this - just about to set up a site, will use the default template with some new images to see how it goes :D

    Cheers for the tip off - especially if it works!
     
  5. dvno879

    dvno879 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2009
    Messages:
    320
    Likes Received:
    69
    Occupation:
    Hustler...
    Location:
    Behind You...
    I dont believe in it. Show me an example site that uses the theme and one that doesnt for proof.


    I honestly dont think this will make any ranking difference...
     
  6. enovator

    enovator Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2008
    Messages:
    437
    Likes Received:
    171
    Site theme got nothing to do with ranking. It is the off site optimization which count most.
     
  7. neo3187

    neo3187 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2010
    Messages:
    868
    Likes Received:
    360
    it makes perfect sense that a theme can effect rankings... many people dont seem to notice the details but i messed up my site cz of theme changes only... now iam not talking specifically about twentyten but many themes show tag links and various other links in such a combination which enables the site to maintain a good internal linking structure and it improves the onsite SEO status of that site... i have a site using the twentyten theme which is on second page of that keyword and the domain doesnt have that keyword...

    where as for the same keyword another site of mine is on page four (with keyword in domain and not using twentyten)...
     
  8. makingfastcash22

    makingfastcash22 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2009
    Messages:
    1,152
    Likes Received:
    178
    Home Page:
    Pop in the twenty ten theme and see what happens! Let us know..

    That will prove if its the theme or somethng else.. use the split test plugin for both themes.

     
  9. jyang

    jyang Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2009
    Messages:
    274
    Likes Received:
    140
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    USA
    I've noticed the same thing, have a site with less 50 links and it outranks competitors. There's a lot of good content though, which may help, but the simplicity of the theme may be why it's doing well in the rankings.
     
  10. igwe4life

    igwe4life Newbie

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2008
    Messages:
    26
    Likes Received:
    0
    Search engine aren't biased on a sites looks like we humans, probably he's doing something you aren't!
     
  11. eskimo

    eskimo Regular Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2008
    Messages:
    475
    Likes Received:
    178
    of course a theme can make a difference
    on page SEO is still very important
    they layout of the content on relation the shit like <h1> tags, internal linking, valid CSS, title and alt tags, all of that makes a big difference
     
  12. rocket

    rocket Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    Messages:
    471
    Likes Received:
    131
    Occupation:
    Web developer and marketer
    Location:
    In my competitor's mind
    its not the theme, its the optimization.

    the popularity of WP is partly due to its customization capabilities and EVERY template can be made seo friendly.
     
  13. richlondon18

    richlondon18 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2009
    Messages:
    142
    Likes Received:
    29
    There is no doubt that themes can effect search engine rankings but on a very low level. THe most likely way is their load speed. Some of the big fancy pro themes out there look good but there is so much going on that it takes forever to load and remember the majority of visitors might not have lightning fast broadband.

    If your blog takes a long time to load your bounce rate is going to sky rocket because most people are not going to sit there and wait for your site.

    High bounce rate means google is going to penalise you so anyone saying themes do not have any effect, you're just plain wrong
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  14. mudbutt

    mudbutt Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2010
    Messages:
    1,877
    Likes Received:
    4,351
    Location:
    ghosted
    He could have a buffer domain with 50k links to it that 301 to his new domain
     
  15. CyrusVirus

    CyrusVirus BANNED BANNED Premium Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2009
    Messages:
    1,110
    Likes Received:
    686
    because everyone loves twenty ten,
    on a serious note. i think its just favored. i use the twenty ten them. and im not ranking well. but my site has only been up for a few weeks.
     
  16. rakhpai

    rakhpai Newbie

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2008
    Messages:
    35
    Likes Received:
    19
    Home Page:
    Theme can count a lot if there is proper HTML tag placement. Minor differences, as font size, and other minor details if are properly setup can make a difference.
     
  17. H3ktor

    H3ktor Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2009
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    992
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Entrepreneur
    Location:
    Paris
    Consider these things:
    1. Coding hierarchy
    2. Fast loading time
    3. Table less layout design
    4. Least usage of oriental script(JS, Ajax etc)
    I am sure twenty ten is better than many other themes in terms of above basic SEO friendly coding style.
     
  18. kolik

    kolik Newbie

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2009
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    33
    The theme can make a huge difference. Has nothing to do with how it looks - all about how it works. Not only 2010 that works well.

    I use some old themes from blogohblog. If i have a site with another theme that is struggling in serp and i change to these it often shows quick improvement in serp and stays that way. Some of the old free themes that work for me better than many modern themes in ranking are

    Code:
    http://www.blogohblog.com/wordpress-theme-firebug/
    and

    Code:
    http://www.blogohblog.com/wordpress-theme-adspress/
     
  19. wickedguy

    wickedguy Supreme Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2009
    Messages:
    1,402
    Likes Received:
    1,379
    Location:
    BHW--> South Africa
    Home Page:
    It could also be that big G knows that most newbies will use the default wordpress theme and AUTOBLOGGERS will go a bit further by NOT using it. LOL
     
  20. internalsoul

    internalsoul Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2009
    Messages:
    1,005
    Likes Received:
    547
    Occupation:
    IM
    Location:
    ON Earth
    Well then thesis should be at the top, The best seo optimized theme. I dnt think theme make a huge difference. When it comes to on page seo, you can do all of that with plugins and little bit of coding. So that is nt at all a big deal. I do agree with the above comment, Search Engines are not biased.