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Why do my email submits never work???

Discussion in 'CPA' started by andysm849, Feb 15, 2009.

  1. andysm849

    andysm849 Newbie

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    I've tried about 5 different email submit offers from both Neverblue and Azoogle, and the conversion rates have been horrible (about 0.65% conversion rate, when I hear of guys getting 5-15% sometimes). Can someone direct me to some CPA email submits from either neverblue or Azoogle that actually convert??

    Its for a polling site btw... old I know, but its a tried and true method, and a good place to start for a noob. Because of this though, my traffic is untargeted for the most part, so am I limited to like "$500 gift card type offers?

    Example page=
    pollquick . net/obama1
     
  2. toyo

    toyo BANNED BANNED

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    azoogle submits is crap, try NBA, it should convert well. If its still not converting, then its means that its your traffic - try rotating offers to see what works best.
     
  3. sttiger

    sttiger Regular Member

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    Also try:
    XY7
    MarketLeverage
    Hydra Network

    But shaving is common, right? :)
     
  4. skyfox

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    XY7 shave a LOT, Hydra is good, but they seem to be following suite lately...

    I guess you shouldn't really expect a high conversion when sending untargetted traffic though... Oh and it could just be me, but your site took ages to load in FF3 and there's a lot of white space to the footer (maybe intentional...)
     
  5. mrsmirf

    mrsmirf Junior Member

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    Low conversions mainly because that type of landing page is an absolute waste of people's time. Trying to trick people into submits is a backward method. Try actually selling what the submit has to offer.
     
  6. createrk

    createrk Junior Member

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    Thats true. Shaving happens in every network as you cant blame them too. Nothing is going to convert to them as blackhat has gone into roots of email sumbits.

    Try chaning offers and see whichever converts and stick to it. To my personnal experience Hydra is going good nowadays with email submits.
     
  7. andysm849

    andysm849 Newbie

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    Thanks for the advice guys... I'm quitting that whole crap now... I read a post on Digital Point about it, and how the conversion rates were so good, and as long as you did it properly you were bound to make money. My landing page is exactlyyyy like the guy who wrote the post trying to sell stupid PPC-Coach or whatever, and what do I get? friggin like $11.25 return off of $50+ in adwords over 5 days. I know that's not a lot to most people, but when your down to around $350 left to work with, it suckssss.....
     
  8. genie1

    genie1 Junior Member

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    your keywords might be too broad (short). Try using very long tail keywords and try again, especially if they're HIGHLY targetted towards the offer or whatever your site is asking the users to do.
     
  9. gaz256

    gaz256 Registered Member

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    stay away from ads4dough and copeac in my experience they shave like crazy, scammed me out of thousands
     
  10. Axelian

    Axelian Regular Member

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    I did my research with email submits.

    It just depends on the offer really. Every affiliate network you get on, you must ask your Manager about the offers...this is what you would say.

    "Heyyy!! I am new to this network, but I am definitely not new to cpa. I have been trying to find a good network that doesn't shave like hell. Can you give me your top 3 converting email submit offers as I work best with them. THANK YOU!!!"

    Usually the AM's will do one of two things, email them to you or just totally disregard you ever asked. I have experienced the AM's never sending an email with COPEAC and Maxbounty.

    I tell everyone email submits deal with a IMPRESSION to ACTION ratio and a SUBMIT to CONVERT ratio.

    If email submits did a 1:1 ratio everyone would be killing with them right now. But its more of a 5:1 ratio, then you have to factor in how many impressions you have on the offer.

    It might take 5 email submits before one converts. Just test the offers. Test, test, test.

    If the offers are still bullsh*t and don't convert then move on to another network.
     
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  11. gaz256

    gaz256 Registered Member

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    i asked my AM at copeac what the best first page only email submits were and he replied with a long list. i tried a few and i just got shaved like mad. i asked him what was going on and he came up with some BS excuse saying its the companies filters, its up to them how they set them.

    ive never dealt with copeac or ads4dough again. infact ive moved on from email submits because i cant find a reliable company. if 2 out of the 2 cpa companies ive tried shaved me like crazy, the fraction of cpa companies that only shave a little must be crazy and i dont have the time to go from one company to the next testing all their email submits, just trying to find one that works.

    shame because theyre such an easy way to make money