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Why BHW needs to change its attitude.

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by EpicSEO, Apr 3, 2014.

  1. EpicSEO

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    BHW seems to have fallen into some sort of cycle - A helpful user posts a helpful thread, Someone flames the method with their 'incredible' knowledge on the topic, The thread loses its value because of the unhelpful comments, and it is lost. What annoys me, is that we all complain of BHW losing its value, there being less methods shared, and everyone keeping themselves to themselves - and not being like BHW was originally, but helpful people do still try to contribute to the community, and try to help people out where possible. One example of this is the thread I made on making money with reddit - a pretty solid, and effective method. I, along with some other users have used this method before, and have made some money from it. I'm not saying that every user will succeed, people are bound to go wrong. My thread title is 'Make $100 / day with reddit". People are saying that this is not possible, but at an easy $25-$50 per day without scaling up with automation, you can easily see what the possibilities are. I'm only referring to my own thread, as I have had time to go through and read every post. There are so many more, but unhelpful members flame just to get the cheap 'Thank' for their sarcasm, or to increase their post count. Correct me if I'm wrong, but posting things like
    do not offer a helpful message to the readers. Just because it may not work for one person, it may work for others. I've chosen this post just because it was in the thread, (users name removed) but the large amount if people who do actively seek for faults in methods need to think to themselves - Is what I am about to post going to help the community, or would it have a negative impact on what may work for others.

    It's just like loclhero said:



    (Check the thread for relevance)

    I don't mind people contributing to my threads, I don't mind people improving my methods, it's just when people make up knowledge of sites they have not got experience in - such as people saying that reddit is strict with bans. Clearly wrong to anyone who has ever made any type of attempt at IM with reddit, but my message is:

    Think before you flame - Is what I am about to post going to benefit the community in a positive way?
    Edit: Feel free to question, but please make sure that you understand what I am trying to say. I'm trying to get across that we need to judge less in our feedback, and to think about how something could be made better, or improved rather than highlighting its faults.
     
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  2. jimmylegs

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  3. Birdz

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    Please don't write a whole thread just to complain that you didn't get good feedback for your method. There is always the good feedback and the bad feedback no matter what.
     
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  4. loclhero

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    Well there's a pertinent reply
    :rolleyes:
     
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  5. EpicSEO

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    But what we are seeing is people not trying the method fully, a lack of effort, causing other people to believe it doesn't work. My thread went quite well, but people are refusing to understand that people share methods to be changed - if everyone did the same method it'll never work. Basic methods no longer work as well, you have to be clever on how you do things. People are trying the basic outlines that people give them, and saying that it's not going to work. That is my problem.
     
  6. jimmylegs

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    Sure is, don't complain about people not helping your thread out or helping you with making money. If you want to make real money you need to pay.

    People posting methods on BHW in my opinion has always been somewhat stupid. If it was a good method that your still doing, you wouldent reveal it.
     
  7. EpicSEO

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    Not necessarily. I've moved on from the CPA scene, so I don't need that method anymore. Why should I not help someone else out?
     
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    Exactly, you moved on. So in other words you and 1000 other people used the hell out of it giving the method to a starter and they won't make a dime.

    Posted via Topify on Android
     
  9. EpicSEO

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    Not all methods are dud, if you ​add your own spin on it.
     
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    Put your own spin so the CPA company can shave earnings cause the traffic your sending the network is from reddit....

    Posted via Topify on Android
     
  11. MoRTiZz3

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    Yeah I definitely agree with you

    But sometimes people have to take risks and see whether if its working or not
     
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  12. EpicSEO

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    As I said twice in my post, this is not a discussion of my reddit thread. If you have a view to express, please do so in the right thread.
     
  13. srb888

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    This is a forum where 10000s of members are active and most of them post. Their comments can be neutral, positive, or negative.

    Re.: methods: Wise is he/she who takes the best out of it and wiser is he/she who works on it and tries to succeed. No one expects every one to do that wise action. If you've given a good method away, then move on without bothering about whatever comment is posted on it. There are other members and Mods who are very active in killing spam and the hate posts, and they also try to keep this place as clean as possible. Look at other similar forums and you will notice that difference.

    Speaking of attitude: Well, every one has that problem and of course they are unable to fine tune their own while pointing out others attitude problems! :p

    ...Such a huge forum will have many people with huge attitude problems crossing one's paths, and that's Ok if you understand the usage of such huge forums by global audiences that use a meaningless username and work unseen from behind a PC. Those guys just want to score a point or two on the internet that somehow helps their ego, while most of them can't get on with it in the offline environment.


    Of course this is not a military school where over-enthusiasm, hooliganism, one-upmanship, and attitude problems can be kept in check 100% effectively. Still, BHW is doing everything it can, and of course most of the problems are dealt with swiftly and successfully. New problems do arise and some old ones do creep up here and there, but immediate new and proven measures are taken to fix them by competent members and mods of this great forum. It's Cool, isn't it? :)
     
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  14. EpicSEO

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    I completely agree with your post, unless it was aimed at me :p I understand that everyone has an opinion on something, be it positive, neutral or negative. This thread is targeted at the people who go through threads, trying to use sarcasm or flaming in order to get a "Thank". I hope you can see where I'm coming from. I sort of typed this in a hurry, as I'm sleeping in about 10 mins :D
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    Whilst I'm sleeping, please don't flame me too much :D

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  15. srb888

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    lol. Why do you think so? ;)

    Anyway, move on or this will blow your peace of mind! :) Sleep well and get full refreshment! There are many more beautiful things getting thrashed around, and that we need to worry about more. But that can wait till morning... Good night! :). And ofc, fxxx others... they are not among your near and dear ones, are they? Successful people don't flam needlessly, and ofc don't worry too much about the flam they get needlessly.
     
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  16. loclhero

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    Says the man who will never make a dime.

    Are you kidding me??? The ONLY reason I personally even posted my own spin on it was because compared to the other money methods I use, this is peanuts. Good god man all you have to do is search my posts going back to 2007 to see I've been consistently making a shitload on adult dating sites. I've been using the same method since then and I would NEVER reveal it. For me to post this little tactic (and I didn't give details btw) was a minor contribution after seeing member after member complain and bitch and whine how things don't work. Also, in no way did I reveal my exact method on this.

    I'd say you're pretty clueless.
     
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  17. loclhero

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    More proof that you'll never make money at least in this field. Anyone using a fucked up, cheesy CPA company when they can sign up directly with adult dating is an idiot.
    And anyone who doesn't know how to spoof or hide a referrer is hopelessly fucked.
     
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    So sad to see it has come to this....so very sad.:(
     
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    Crak as in CrakRev? Trying to sell porn to redditors isn't going to pay your rent/mortgage.
     
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    @ Jimmylegs,
    Localhero has given you a huge source to retwist and restart your method and journey, while he is beating you up... that's real Guru material if you know what I mean. :)

    Guru material: A very learned man/teacher who secretly teaches you a lot and helps you rise, while seemingly putting you down in public or otherwise (for all your errors and mistakes). ;)
     
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