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why are sitewide links bad?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by CosmicSoundz, May 28, 2013.

  1. CosmicSoundz

    CosmicSoundz BANNED BANNED

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    Why are they not recommended?
     
  2. tc101

    tc101 Junior Member

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    sitewide links are powerful . I don't know why people don't like it.
     
  3. Mr.Boss

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    it's suppose if site has more than 1000 more posts or page then you will create same exact anchor text link 1000 links
    unless you have more links diversify the anchor text profile otherwise i think it has chance trigger anchor text penalty
     
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    Generally, its anecdotal evidence...

    I always advise clients against them because of many cases where they 'could' have been the culprit. Generally though, there are always other factors, and I've never actually seen any conclusive evidence that they damage an SEO ranking in isolation.

    Typically, I've seen cases where WordPress sites have used some plugin, either on-purpose for SEO - or unknowingly, and created 10k+ links across an entire site. The site that is linked to has experienced problems, but this could be for a variety of reasons. Maybe it has increased the density of a single keyword, or maybe that many links from one site has tripped another filter (nothing to do with this) which has then caused another negative effect to trigger, or even a manual review in some cases. (Domino effect.)

    Google should of course be 'clever' enough to just discount a massive amount of links from a single domain, especially in light of the amount of WP plugins etc. that can cause this. So, I'm in 2 minds with it. But since it has appeared as one of the obvious possible contributing factors to a large number of negative ranking cases I've looked into, I've always avoided it as a matter of 'just-in-case', largely because there is very little ranking benefit to be had from 10k links from a single domain as compared to 1-10 in embedded content. I believe that multiple links from a domain can be useful over time and when appearing naturally, but obviously not hundred or thousands.
     
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    site wide or not side wide, it doesn't matter as long as those links are built properly
     
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    Hmmm my common sense says that it proves that your links are not diversified. If you have 100K links from 1K sites, it should mean that you have not been mentioned by too many people(1K people ultimately shared you, not 100K). If you have 50K links from 49Ksites, it should mean that a loooot of people shared your site's link.. Make sense? (I might be wrong LOL... I am not an SEO guy)
     
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    I know you are not kidding and I really want to hear more from you about it!! Could you please explain your point? I have access to a lot of high PR sites for some reason. I could then utilize them to full potential!! Please explain man :)
     
  8. CosmicSoundz

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    I guess its bad when the site is shit. Just like any link would be.
     
  9. Aryanking

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    Sitewides have bad reputation for gaming the SE... but as with most things seo related... its really a numbers game... and the reputation/trust ratio of the link host sites.... that determines if the sitewide links will likely land you a penalty
     
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    If it's sitewide and unrelated, that's a red flag for google and many sites have been penalized for that. Sitewides can be very effective though if google sees your site as relevant and valuable.
     
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    The reason they get a bad rep is people used them as a form of bh ranking like any good link its the nature of the game. It depends what sort of sitewide links your getting, if its a mass number of them all from sites designed for this very purpose and you are clearly trying to use them to your own advantage then it don't take a genius to work out google won't like it. This tactic works well but not for as long as the effects of some legit sitewides.

    On the other hand if you have your link sitewide on just a few high pr big authority sites that google has their dick in, then that screams to google your site is something special! Sitewide links are powerful links if you get on the right sites but its usually pretty damn pricey to get decent placements.
     
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