Who else uses SEO Cloaker..

zetetic said:

Seacrheneginecloaker is a pile of junk .. i could never get it to perform.. along with several other people i know who have spent over $1500 trying it and they never got a dam thing out of it.. I personally think its a big con and cloaking doesnt even work anymore.. SEC certainly doesnt work.. The only ppl here saying it does work are friends of peter (SEC) . or have a vested interesting in selling it you. along with loads of crappy templates they stole from free resources.. ( yes thats right they arent even their own templates they stole them)

Seacrhenginecloaker is best avoided !!
seriously its a pile of junk !

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Wow.. Everything you said is completely wrong. I dont know Peter, I paid for SEC and all the add-ons, I knew nothing about cloaking other than the theory before I bought it, and I have thousands of pages and more and more everyday that prove you wrong. Normally I dont get involved in this kind of discussion but you are bashing one of the few systems out there that actually works, and works well.

Michel said:

Hi,



So if any of you has a perfect way for me to get backlinks (I would like to have them automated or else little work) please let me know.



regards,

Michel

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Michel,

I tried out a blog commenting tool that I downloaded from a link on this site actually, I'm sorry I don't remember the name and I am not home now. I don't know if its automated enough for you, but it allows you to search by keyword then opens up 10 tabs with a blog in it and the comment section open. I have actually found this to be really helpful because I can do a really quick scan to make sure the blog isn't totally off topic. If you really fly through it you can make about 15-20 posts a minute, and if I get the "slow down you're posting too fast", I just switch up the comment a little bit and it goes through. I know this really isn't BH but I will say it has been very successful, more so than any other blog commenting method. If this is of interest to you, Ill post the name of the software. I think Ruck may have made reference to something similar on another post.

Wb 2.0 will kick SEC ass from.........

Are you sure??????????
Do you know what SEC is for and do you know what Web 2.0 is for?
If you do know that, then you would know both are totally different!

And NO, I will always make more money with cloaking than Web 2.0

This is just another example that most people don't know how to use SEC, sorry Worldly but I know that this is true.

Michel

Michel is on the money again, its just another case of misinformation again nicho

Michel, Ruck, et al

You guys obviously know what you are doing. Would you mind telling me what you think the most effective use of SEC is? I see benefits to most of the addons but things I don't like as well.

Have you had much luck with the markov? I like the simplicity of using the markov, just giving it a list of serps and generating seeds that way, but the title tags are just horrible.

I like the extractor but I find that I am setting up so many filters to get rid of text that could cause problems for me, I inevitably miss some.

I have not tried using the extractor from within templates. Have you?

I have all the addons, and the spiders come daily and eat up everything, but the listings are not fantastic.

I have only once actually sat down and designed a content rich template that changed out every word, every time (a la Jellybean method) but I haven't seen this rock my world yet. It is a real pain to do, and it is never perfect English. I know that you shouldn't run adsense on cloaked pages, but do you guys know if it is relatively safe to create a template like the one above and add adsense to it, then leave SEC in test mode? Then its not really cloaked anything, its just a dynamically generated page.

I have all the addons and cloaker live and I am experimenting with different combinations but if anyone has something that has worked particularly well and would like to share, that would be great.

One last thing, I am using the htaccess method as I should be, but in your experience, is it better to use nocache and risk that raising flags, or allowing a cache of the page and risking people sniffing around. I opted for allowing the cache and didnt think much of it, but I am seeing more and more results showing that someone or something is checking the cached version of some of the pages.

Maybe too many questions in one post. I am just paticularly interested in seeing SEC work to its fullest potential, I am sure it can do many things that are way out of my scope.

texacola said:

I also have owned and used SECloaker or Search Engine Cloaker (it's proper name cuz I'm pedantic) for a year or 3 as well, and agree with web_i that you gotta put a lot of effort in initially to get a good return on your investment.

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wow, im pedantic too! I think pedantic people are intelligent

sec (cloaking ) seem to be a real danger any more unless you are a expert with it ..

Superman, you have been a cloaker since years and a member form SEC.
How can you say it is a real danger??????

It still works very well and it will always do, I don't get your remark.

Michel

I've had SEC for a number of years now with limited success. It's a lot of work before you get a site really humming, but I have cloaked sites that have been up for years. It's the best cloaking tool out there.

Cloaking is just like any other tool......

I have used SEC with SLURL. The site was never detected by anyone as a "cloaked" site......did it really help in terms of ranking and so on....no, not really.

It has to do with links and that even includes BH sites.

So, I think it is a matter of how much time do you want to spend on setting up a site versus the benefit in terms of traffic and making it profitable.

A page is a page to a search engine.

Links....

The off site factor that matters a lot in a very competitive niche.

sec is the best

Nice little cloaking discussion here..
What I found confusing with SEC is the amount of tools which are available...
like static, Slurl, cloaker live, then there is another tool for mass set up etc...
With Fantomaster on the other site there is just fantomaster and nothing else..

So I here are my questions:
What is the best combination for SEC? Static, and Templates as mentioned in a previous post?

Michael did you try to use the content produced with Fantomaster in SEC?
Are you using Fantomaster with the spyfetcher?
I would be interested in information exchange...

Barcelona,

yes I use spyfetcher.
I don't use content from Fantomas with SEC.......yet.
Perhaps I will try it on one domain and seed what the results are.
For now I find the content I create with SEC good enough.

You are always welcome to PM me and to exchange information.

As a user of SEC, I'll say that it's the one cloaking solution that I've used that didn't result in a outright ban quick. I still have cloaked sites up with with SEC that I haven't done anything with that haven't been found out by Google. The tough thing about SEC is working content with that will rank high. I've used other solutions that get indexed higher than SEC without the hassle, but they get banned quicker, too. It's a two-sided coin.

Guys, My first post.

Thanks for this thread. I have made up my mind SEC is the way to go.
I need to buy some templates, can someone pls PM me, i am on the learning curve, more is less.

many thanks....

Lots of questions and opinions about sec fantomas , some say it good some say it does not work for them.......here is a cast iron winner for whomever wants to do it first.

Produce a series of videos using a real example that show how sec and fantamos work and then flog them to all of the members asking how to use these programs.....certain money by reading this thread

If English was my native language I would do that lol.
If you have seen my other video you know how I sound LMAO

I think the english have it tooo good, I mean english doesnt have to be crossed a million times, I think thats what the english get wrong, I dare some to try japanese....

(OTHER THAN THAT)
I have used se cloaker with the help of Michel I know how to work it properly.

I have used SEC for a few weeks, seems fine but it's a bit early to say yet. What I would recommend is EWI ( Express Website Installer) which works with SEC I can easily knock up about 4 or 5 sites an hour if I want to. There's a simple and effective auto pinger which is great and the support from the owner is fantastic, he is available 99% time and on IM. You pay monthly, about $30, which is a fair amount.

I now have about 50 EWI sites, hopefully will see the results in a couple of months, but for info I am already getting traffic.

And no I'm not an affiliate or a friend of the owner of EWI...just impressed with his system and professional approach.

Are you sure about that krispygurl?

Sites don't last in the SE's.........
Do NOT use it on valuable domains...............

I have to disagree on both counts.

Sites do last in the SE's, for years now.
True that it is btter to not put it on your wh domain, but I have sites that do have that and they still work. 1,5 yers now....