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Who cares about Domain PR?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by SEOjebus, Aug 12, 2009.

  1. SEOjebus

    SEOjebus Newbie

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    I see this all the time. Someone creates a post that says "Free PR7 backlink". You open the post and you find a link that takes you to a site that you create a page on with your link. That page has a PageRank of None, and maybe will eventually become a PR0 link or PR1. I personally find the PR of the root domain irrelevant unless my link goes on the front page.

    So why does everyone reference the Domain PR of the page's actual PR? And does the domain PR even matter?
     
  2. Bacanze

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    Two reasons:

    1. They are idiots
    2. Create a buzz so you check it out (deceptive marketing)

    And finally, PR is a useful metric simply because it's usually a good metric to determine a websites / pages authority, I know this is quite vaque, but I don't want to elaborate more unless you have a specific question.
     
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  3. Micallef

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    I think it might be wishful thinking, people find something and what to believe it's good. Linkbuilding is hard when you start out, now I get more high quality links done in a few hours than I did in a whole week when I was starting out. I measure link value in this order:

    1) PR of the page (as opposed to the domain)
    2) Number of outbound links (lower is better)
    3) Presence of known spam words in outgoing anchors (lower is better), if this is too high it can trump 1 and 2.

    I don't restrict myself to links from relevant sites. However, I consider it a massive bonus for the strength of my link if I do manage to spam an on-topic site. I take care of the relevance side of things my creating free blogs and web 2.0 sites which have little PR but provide context linking. Thus, half my link profile comes from relevant sites, and half comes from high power comment spam targets.
     
  4. SEOjebus

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    I consider the relevance of the domain to be important and along with you, Micallef, I look at the PR of the page and the amount of outbound links and how "on topic" the page is.

    Relevancy is just as important as PR in my opinion. I would take a relevant PR2 link over an irrelevant PR4 link any day. I've bought tons of irrelevant high PR links and have never seen a benefit from them.
     
  5. Micallef

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    I have reached number 1 before using only irrelevant links. They can do the job - although, of course, relevant links are preferred, and will do the job better.

    I think this is a good equivalence measure. However, I would take the relevant PR2 link and the irrelevant PR4 link :)

    It just so happens I was doing my rounds and came across this site:

    http://www.acrobatusers.com/tutorials/2008/08/a9video_create_secure_attachments

    This page is PR7, regardless of the domain. However, I would not use it myself as it has hundreds of outgoing links, reducing its power to something like that of a PR2 and making it dangerous to use due to the high density of known spam keywords.
     
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    Irrelevant links are fine, and acquiring link on irrelevant pages is usually much easier. I believe to keep a balance between non related and related links, especially if you're trying to grow your websites general SERP authority in a particular niche, rather than rank for a particular keyword. If your acquiring too many un-related links, simply build them to a web 2.0 page of yours containing your related article, anchor text and so on, just as Micallef rightly said.

    Btw, that's a nice find Micallef, although I to wouldn't touch it, just yesterday I found a golden nut, same PR, however it only had around 13 OBL on the page :).
     
  7. Hell389

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    I first thought it was useless too, but if u see, the domain that have high, usually the page you create rise pr to 1-2-3 too later on, if u put link on domain with pr0, the page u create will never rise pr.
     
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    i saw somewhere claim that google bot give more priority to claw on higher pr domain than lower ones
     
  9. HairSpray

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    I second this. If you're gonna post your link on a high pr site, but not on the front page, on a page that has 0 pr. its worthless.
     
  10. keinehabe

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    it's just deceptive crap to '' catch newbies eyes '' . Easy !
     
  11. sikandar

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    Well, Angela Edwards has shown that such backlinks from high PR (high authority) sites matter a lot in ranking for your keywords - even though the individual pages from where you get the links may not be having a high page rank. That's why there is so much buzz about Angela's backlinks
     
  12. ukescuba

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    its important/good if your selling the links! lol

    im guilty myself of getting BL from high PR pages but i certainly wouldnt buy them, i just use the google options -> forums and reviews tool and sort through them all using some pr tools
     
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    Exactly. Domains with high PR. Have authority throughout their site. So it doesn't matter if the your link is on a N/A PR page. Because if the home domain has a good PR then you get link authority from them.
     
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    it's funny when ppl who are using link wheels brag about their rankings such as "Detroit sears carpet installation review"
     
  15. Micallef

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    I would not be so sure about this. I am conducting tests.
     
  16. RiTu

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    Guys, what would you want the most:
    100 links from PR8 web directories or 100 links from PR0 or PRNA directories.