White Hatters are Annoying...

neo3187 · Mar 30, 2011

jstover77 said:
Hahahaha. That is a great theory. They spread their BS around in the forum so that they can sell more WSOs. That is great. I totally agree, that forum is worthless except once in a while I find a WSO that is actually good.

I just skim through their WAR ROOM once in a while and get some free plugins or WP templates or some other interesting free stuff

... but when I started IM a guy recommended me 2 follow WF, thats how actually I started, and It was insane, thank god i finally found BHW....

Jabong82 · Mar 30, 2011

Yeh I think most White Hatters really have a biased view because they only know White Hat.

Black Hatters come from the "been there, done that" mentality. We know all the White Hat stuff but also Black Hat as well. Many of these people criticizing black hatters have NEVER DONE BLACK HAT or used any sort of automated software.

I think Black Hatters are the "Failures" of the White Hat world, meaning we tried it, got little results, and then turned to the dark side and never looked back.

Successful SEO in my opinion is a combination of White Hat and Black Hat.

But damn those noobs think they know it all and are crazy annoying!

islandfire · Mar 30, 2011

They should be the last people who call blackhatters unethical...I bought a WSO some time ago.....read through it and found out the guy copied the content from another persons product. A lot of it word for word. I got a refund and that was the straw that broke the camel's back. Last time I bought anything from there, I don't even go there much anymore. I'm not saying they all do it but that was just plain lazy. And his and is cohorts reasoning was that the other guy's product was so expensive those who can't afford it could buy his at less than half the price...blah blah blah. Lazy bastard...

adhept · Mar 30, 2011

Yeessh, you guys really hate the WF.

Granted it's dire. But once in a while you do get someone who shares some pretty decent info for free. A guy I met on there taught me what to do differently with facebook PPC (at no cost) and his advice was rock solid.

It's also a freakin gold mine. I'm not kidding, those people will by ANYTHING with decent copy

Servers · Mar 30, 2011

Got to say I love this post

I had a similar experience on UKBF with White Hatters trolling when I said that automation is alot more effective than WH Techniques.

As I was completely outnumbered with the "moralistic" (I use that term v. loosely) attitude of the white hatters I ended up losing alot of credibility and potential contracts because of it.

When you think about It makes sense that alot of SEO's out there preach alot of bollocks about Black hat SEO, and that's typically because alot of the seo companies get paid on retainers, and resultantly they have no incentive to improve rankings quickly for fear of losing their contracts.

But If that's the way they want to play it, fck em, makes things alot easier for us guys in the long run.

My advice don't try to convert em, rather just leave them to their own devices because whilst we're all niche and in the minority we can operate effectively in pretty much any industry we want to

Like they say "too many cooks in the kitchen... blah blah blah"

koreangq · Mar 30, 2011

I don't see much difference between white hatters and black hatters.

We both are trying to make money online.
We both are trying not to get sandboxed by google.
We both are cautious of scammy products.
The list goes on and on...

Only difference I see...is white hatters are really crappy black hatters.
If you're a crappy black hatter then that means you don't get good results.
By default you're a white hatter.

Abstroose · Mar 30, 2011

I've been doing black hat so long, I completely forgot what white hat is. Actually, I don't even know what the hell black hat is either. It's all just SEO to me.

Monrox · Mar 30, 2011

Paid links are the easiest way to earn huge money fast. Anything else hast the potential to do it too but there is no guarantee and as such requires a BH twist to it, brains and dedication.

kennyhoc3 · Mar 30, 2011

adhept said:
Granted it's dire. But once in a while you do get someone who shares some pretty decent info for free. A guy I met on there taught me what to do differently with facebook PPC (at no cost) and his advice was rock solid.

It's also a freakin gold mine. I'm not kidding, those people will by ANYTHING with decent copy

I too met a guy on WF who has helped me get started in domain parking, never thought it was possible to actually make money from it but this guy had some great advice to share with me =)

and noobs are a love/hate relationship kind of thing, you hate them because they are annoying but love how easily they can be manipulated =)

master-of-backlinks · Mar 30, 2011

Lol WF is where us Blackhatters go to get a good laugh for the day. And what is so funny is everyone on WF thinks there right about all of that. They are truly enetertaining.

mantwo · Mar 30, 2011

master-of-backlinks said:
Lol WF is where us Blackhatters go to get a good laugh for the day. And what is so funny is everyone on WF thinks there right about all of that. They are truly enetertaining.

And to sell them rehashed shit from the download section on BHW....

jegolove · Mar 30, 2011

Jabong82 said:
Join the darkside

Sorry I was just on a rant because I was on this thread trying to help this guy who was trying to rank his website for like this dumb non-competitive 4 and 5 word keywords that get like 50 BROAD searches a month.

He was already ranking like on page 5 or 6 without doin anything for them, and all these newbs are talkin about hand building links for months and building "quality content" blah blah. Some guys were even telling him to use a link broker and he could maybe get some high PR links for $30-50 / month each.

Then I chimed in and said "Dude WTF, just do some link blasts"

Then all these "Experts" said crap like "Oh those worthless Xrumer links won't help you" and "Oh you're gonna be sorry when those webmasters report you to Google and your site gets banned"

I was like WTF ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!

LOL

Lool I got You!

:chicken_w

balric · Mar 30, 2011

I consider what I do grey hat. I go to the warrior forum once in a while just to check for reviews of products and I read a WSO I find once in a while. I see them attacking any form of automation when they should embrace it. You build your own sites white hat as much as possible but promote it using grey hat. That is really what would help them make money but that is hard to hear when you are watching all the gurus.

cyvex · Mar 30, 2011

werefish said:
Maybe I will, or maybe I won't In any case, BHW is a great source of information for both white and black hats.

Join the dark side we have milk and cookies!! Muahaha

Seriously dude I slaved WH for years, now I'll never look back!!

IsaacADB · Mar 31, 2011

Yes. Getting a handful of authority links will never beat your massive xrumer blasts and link pyramids. Keep thinking that. Also, make more threads like this please.

brent360 · Mar 31, 2011

Jabong82 said:
Join the darkside

Sorry I was just on a rant because I was on this thread trying to help this guy who was trying to rank his website for like this dumb non-competitive 4 and 5 word keywords that get like 50 BROAD searches a month.

He was already ranking like on page 5 or 6 without doin anything for them, and all these newbs are talkin about hand building links for months and building "quality content" blah blah. Some guys were even telling him to use a link broker and he could maybe get some high PR links for $30-50 / month each.

Then I chimed in and said "Dude WTF, just do some link blasts"

Then all these "Experts" said crap like "Oh those worthless Xrumer links won't help you" and "Oh you're gonna be sorry when those webmasters report you to Google and your site gets banned"

I was like WTF ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!

LOL

The dumber your competition, the less competition you have to worry about.

IsaacADB said:
Yes. Getting a handful of authority links will never beat your massive xrumer blasts and link pyramids.

OP didn't even imply that. Oh you!

bigeazy · Apr 1, 2011

IsaacADB said:
Yes. Getting a handful of authority links will never beat your massive xrumer blasts and link pyramids. Keep thinking that. Also, make more threads like this please.

Okay I'm new on BHW but have been wearing a black hat since 06 and prominent on other BH forums. Dumbfcuks like buddy up there are why ppl like me succeed. Don't you understand blackhat???

You astroturf your own goddamn links =
$$$ site <- 20 (or however many) 2.0's <- article juice (no eza bs.. they can suck on my left nut, amr/nuke juice instead) <- profile links + SB pr3+ comments

BE CREATIVE

White hatters and WF are like the horny a$$ virgins in high school, they look from far away while I am banging their sister

'tis all true!

wokaka · Apr 1, 2011

lol they call themselves white hat yet they recommend you "paid links"?

isnt paid links part of cheating?

cash202 · Apr 1, 2011

Black hat is imperative for affiliate marketing.

I was totally disillusioned when I reverse engineered
several top affiliate campaigns in competitive niches.

Now I know how it is REALLY done. Fcuk the gurus and
white hat.

efwebs · Apr 1, 2011

There is nothing more white hat about automated links than manual, unless you are blatantly spamming them.

In other words, anyone linking to their own sites isn't "natural" in any way, so you might as well be efficient at it

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