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White Hat SEO - Sooo... Black

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by caroline42, May 14, 2010.

  1. caroline42

    caroline42 Junior Member

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    Hi to all,

    just want to let you know a bit about some of my experiences, gathered over the years.

    The situation:
    Domain - top 500 company PR 8 more than 15 years old

    My site: a "private" directory on that domain, 10 years old, main page 0/white, all the directory PR grey :D

    A few links placed there ALWAYS show great effects.

    As PR is not existent, must have to do something with age and trust.

    Need to say, before G froned up on directories it had PR 2-3 on all pages.
    To me it looks like the famous .gov or .edu value has more to do with domain age, than the TLD.

    For one of my new domains (18 month - without use), 35 links there made it ranking great after
    finally uploading some content 2 weeks ago.
     
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  2. PixelBaker

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    That's great share!
     
  3. Mark Blaze

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    Yep it does have alot to do with their age but remember PR is not everything and seeing as they are only updated every so often during the year the site could have the power of a PR 7 but yet not show it in the PR Bar or show a much lower PR until the next update.

    What im trying to say is the link juice and link power can still be there regardless of what the PR bar say's.

    Mark Blaze
     
  4. caroline42

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    That's exactly what I am observing since about two years.
     
  5. Rajthepositivelife

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    PR is based on the number of backlinks, I had read somewhere that each PR rank has 5 times more links than previous PR rank.

    for example - if PR 2 requires 120 backlinks, PR 3 will need 120 * 5 = 600 backlinks

    I believe if your site is old, it must have gathered a lot of backlinks and so its PR should increase.

    If it is zero right now, may be your site might be linking to bad neighbourhood site or to a site that is considered bad according to google (example porn site or gambling site, parked domain, etc )
     
  6. caroline42

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    PR (publicly) passed depends on on the number of backlinks, their respectiv own PR and the number of outbound links you are competing with.

    The aproximate relation (assuming there are not more than 10 outbound links competing with yours)

    To achieve a
    PR2 101xPR1 18xPR2 3xPR3 1xPR4
    PR3 555xPR1 101xPR2 18xPR3 3xPR4 1xPR5 ...
    PR4 3055 555 101 18 3 1
    PR5 16803 3055 555 101 18 3 1
    ...
    PR10 84 mil. 15 mil. 2.8 mil. 0.5 mil. 92414 16803 3055 555 100 18

    You see the pattern?

    These nÂș may vary a bit depending on concrete liking situation between all inplicated sites but do give a good overview. There is no secret in that.

    The question here is more about the value of a link when no PR is publicly assigned. There must be some; I know very well that PR is not all and means very few when it comes to ranking factors.

    To answer the "wait for the next update" comment. It escaped your attention that the site in question is more than 10 years old and I have seen ALL the PR updates (ups and downs) during this period. :cool:

    Concerning bad neightborhood (none) and inbound links only a few on one domain. I don't want to rank that directory, I am just astonished about the strong effects that have links placed there.
     
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