Which spotify stream bot?

Thanks, I thought premium trials count as premium. Do you think single legit DK distro with new artist, 60-80 instrumental songs and less than 10k streams per day will be safe starting set up?
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You mean hacked accounts or family member accounts?
 
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lorem0 said:
Thanks, I thought premium trials count as premium. Do you think single legit DK distro with 60-80 instrumental songs and less than 10k streams per day will be safe?

You mean hacked accounts or family member accounts?
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Free premium trials pays either $0 or the same rate as free accounts. They are not worth the hassle.

Eventually, your songs will get pulled. You can start with those 60-80 songs but you need to keep adding to that total. Ideally through other distributor accounts. Personally, I avoid Distrokid now after the January ban wave. Check out United Masters, Traxx.space, Soundrop or many others. Spread your catalog out.

Create your own premium accounts. Sign up individually. Hacked accounts won't last long and family plans only offer about half the royalties as full premium accounts.
 
Are you saying that self-registered premium accounts bring more money in royalties than they are worth? That's counter-intuitive.
 
lorem0 said:
Came here looking for this, very enlightening. If I may hijack the thread, what is the reasonable amount of distributor accounts and songs per account to keep the show running for a while? Is there a good bot that can do both apple music and spotify? I can make 3 month trials of apple music in my place of residence relatively easily with local e-wallets, wanna take advantage of that.
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AppTools has also Apple and others platforms
lorem0 said:
Came here looking for this, very enlightening. If I may hijack the thread, what is the reasonable amount of distributor accounts and songs per account to keep the show running for a while? Is there a good bot that can do both apple music and spotify? I can make 3 month trials of apple music in my place of residence relatively easily with local e-wallets, wanna take advantage of that.
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AppTools has apple bot and other platforms
 
Billiondigital said:
How much will A $10 Premium account brings per 1k streams on Apple Music? And how much can a family premium bring per 1k streams?
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I don't do Apple Music currently. But it should be similar to Spotify. Spotify is around $5 per 1,000 plays for Premium and $2.80 per 1,000 plays on a family plan.
 
I'm inclined to listen to @SpeedProxies here. I've seen a few of your posts in other threads and you seem most knowledgeable when it comes to spotify and streams. Very real & transparent, demeanor which is appreciated.

I never formally introduced myseld but I'm Coop. I'm a music producer trying to compete with all the other acts. I came to this forum to find which methods would help me in my music journey but at this point I'm just trying to keep up with all the jargon lol. I spent a lot of time scouring the threads for info but I'm having a hard time piecing things together. With so much conflicting info, it's a challenge just to avoid being mislead or scammed out of my little pocket change.

Please excuse my newb vibes. I usually Google everything but some shit is just hard to find. Google can only help so much, particularly if you're not sure what you don't know.

Before today, I didn't even know bots for Spotify existed. I only have one song on spotify but really want to use the platform to it's fullest potential and build it up to be an asset to my career.

What I'd like to know is two things:
1) would it be smart to use bots on my actual legit Spotify Artist account? Would be ideal for this to seem as organic as possible. The goal is to increase my visibility, get more plays, more playlist placement opportunities, etc. Not necessarily for a quick payout, but of course if I can find a method to make money with my legit Spotify account with minimal risk, that'd be great too. Not sure if I'm being unrealistic there.

2) Outside of that, what other uses do people have for Spotify bots? I read in another thread a guy making $4,000+/month with his special method (for sale). On which, @SpeedProxies has heroically pulled back the curtains to reveal there's no secret to it. Yet I'm still not understanding the process, the jargan. I'm in need cash like most of everyone here, so this forum is a goldmine for 'shiny object syndrome." Just trying to find the best way to make some cash and still pursue my passion with music.
 
coopmusic said:
I'm inclined to listen to @SpeedProxies here. I've seen a few of your posts in other threads and you seem most knowledgeable when it comes to spotify and streams. Very real & transparent, demeanor which is appreciated.

I never formally introduced myseld but I'm Coop. I'm a music producer trying to compete with all the other acts. I came to this forum to find which methods would help me in my music journey but at this point I'm just trying to keep up with all the jargon lol. I spent a lot of time scouring the threads for info but I'm having a hard time piecing things together. With so much conflicting info, it's a challenge just to avoid being mislead or scammed out of my little pocket change.

Please excuse my newb vibes. I usually Google everything but some shit is just hard to find. Google can only help so much, particularly if you're not sure what you don't know.

Before today, I didn't even know bots for Spotify existed. I only have one song on spotify but really want to use the platform to it's fullest potential and build it up to be an asset to my career.

What I'd like to know is two things:
1) would it be smart to use bots on my actual legit Spotify Artist account? Would be ideal for this to seem as organic as possible. The goal is to increase my visibility, get more plays, more playlist placement opportunities, etc. Not necessarily for a quick payout, but of course if I can find a method to make money with my legit Spotify account with minimal risk, that'd be great too. Not sure if I'm being unrealistic there.

2) Outside of that, what other uses do people have for Spotify bots? I read in another thread a guy making $4,000+/month with his special method (for sale). On which, @SpeedProxies has heroically pulled back the curtains to reveal there's no secret to it. Yet I'm still not understanding the process, the jargan. I'm in need cash like most of everyone here, so this forum is a goldmine for 'shiny object syndrome." Just trying to find the best way to make some cash and still pursue my passion with music.
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Do not bot your own, legit, song. It will eventually get pulled. And botting activity is easy to spot. People will know you botted plays.
 
coopmusic said:
I'm inclined to listen to @SpeedProxies here. I've seen a few of your posts in other threads and you seem most knowledgeable when it comes to spotify and streams. Very real & transparent, demeanor which is appreciated.

I never formally introduced myseld but I'm Coop. I'm a music producer trying to compete with all the other acts. I came to this forum to find which methods would help me in my music journey but at this point I'm just trying to keep up with all the jargon lol. I spent a lot of time scouring the threads for info but I'm having a hard time piecing things together. With so much conflicting info, it's a challenge just to avoid being mislead or scammed out of my little pocket change.

Please excuse my newb vibes. I usually Google everything but some shit is just hard to find. Google can only help so much, particularly if you're not sure what you don't know.

Before today, I didn't even know bots for Spotify existed. I only have one song on spotify but really want to use the platform to it's fullest potential and build it up to be an asset to my career.

What I'd like to know is two things:
1) would it be smart to use bots on my actual legit Spotify Artist account? Would be ideal for this to seem as organic as possible. The goal is to increase my visibility, get more plays, more playlist placement opportunities, etc. Not necessarily for a quick payout, but of course if I can find a method to make money with my legit Spotify account with minimal risk, that'd be great too. Not sure if I'm being unrealistic there.

2) Outside of that, what other uses do people have for Spotify bots? I read in another thread a guy making $4,000+/month with his special method (for sale). On which, @SpeedProxies has heroically pulled back the curtains to reveal there's no secret to it. Yet I'm still not understanding the process, the jargan. I'm in need cash like most of everyone here, so this forum is a goldmine for 'shiny object syndrome." Just trying to find the best way to make some cash and still pursue my passion with music.
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1. Technically it depends what you are trying to get out of the streams, if you are trying to get money then its kinda risky as for a good ROI you would need to just stream with premium accounts and stream your songs mainly and this can easily be detected as botting so I wouldn't risk that, but since you said you said "goal is to increase my visibility, get more plays, more playlist placement opportunities, etc." then you should be fine if your streaming technique is good, so you want to get a boost of real organic listeners, what do you do 1st to get legit listeners from the same genre? Maybe try botting playlists you are in with other artists in the same music category or that may share real listeners + boost streams for "random" artists in the same genre as you + the ones you share playlists with, that can help you get into more Spotify algorithmic playlists/Spotify editorial playlists and other listener's playlists.

2. I am 99% sure he is bsing about making $4k a month from 1 single distributor account, especially with distrokid which easily bans botters since this year started. Anyways the best way to make "legit" looking streams is doing it yourself with your own streaming pattern or find someone who is directly botting them himself with other legit artists, if you are into looking to join the spotify botting community you could but I would suggest waiting few more weeks as a lot of bots are moving to the Spotify Desktop App for botting since stats are counting better and its more efficient to stream with, also some bots broke lately since spotify updated their login system which now limits how many logins you can do per hour/ip, so only some bots can bypass it which is bad cost wise as you would need more expensive rotating proxies to stream with.
Budget wise to start I think I have seen most start with $300-500 (as most needed to make artists + songs + wait 2/3 months for payout).
 
SpeedProxies said:
1. Technically it depends what you are trying to get out of the streams, if you are trying to get money then its kinda risky as for a good ROI you would need to just stream with premium accounts and stream your songs mainly and this can easily be detected as botting so I wouldn't risk that, but since you said you said "goal is to increase my visibility, get more plays, more playlist placement opportunities, etc." then you should be fine if your streaming technique is good, so you want to get a boost of real organic listeners, what do you do 1st to get legit listeners from the same genre? Maybe try botting playlists you are in with other artists in the same music category or that may share real listeners + boost streams for "random" artists in the same genre as you + the ones you share playlists with, that can help you get into more Spotify algorithmic playlists/Spotify editorial playlists and other listener's playlists.

2. I am 99% sure he is bsing about making $4k a month from 1 single distributor account, especially with distrokid which easily bans botters since this year started. Anyways the best way to make "legit" looking streams is doing it yourself with your own streaming pattern or find someone who is directly botting them himself with other legit artists, if you are into looking to join the spotify botting community you could but I would suggest waiting few more weeks as a lot of bots are moving to the Spotify Desktop App for botting since stats are counting better and its more efficient to stream with, also some bots broke lately since spotify updated their login system which now limits how many logins you can do per hour/ip, so only some bots can bypass it which is bad cost wise as you would need more expensive rotating proxies to stream with.
Budget wise to start I think I have seen most start with $300-500 (as most needed to make artists + songs + wait 2/3 months for payout).
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Thanks for the timely response!

I'm still a bit confused with the whole botting thing. Does it require technical knowledge or is it more like "plug & chug" easy usage? Looks to be something I'll have to spend time learning and familiarizing myself with. Feel free to direct me to any "botting for beginners" threads lol

Tbh I'm just glad I found this community. I've had this account since 2016 but forgot about it. Since rediscovering it 2 days ago I've spent nearly all my free time here. Lots a great contributions from the members. Hope to share my success story from what I learn in the years to come
 
coopmusic said:
Thanks for the timely response!

I'm still a bit confused with the whole botting thing. Does it require technical knowledge or is it more like "plug & chug" easy usage? Looks to be something I'll have to spend time learning and familiarizing myself with. Feel free to direct me to any "botting for beginners" threads lol

Tbh I'm just glad I found this community. I've had this account since 2016 but forgot about it. Since rediscovering it 2 days ago I've spent nearly all my free time here. Lots a great contributions from the members. Hope to share my success story from what I learn in the years to come
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I will post some free guides in the near future after they get updated with more/better info.
 
SpeedProxies said:
Let me tell you one thing about them, they treat their customers bad just for pointing out issues or they publicly make fun of you in their announcements channel for small petty things. However they are still a good working bot, but there are other alternatives you may wanna look at too like SpotiChart, beastify.me, ArtisticWay, Deep Bots and etc.
Bots I would stay away from if you ever saw them from my peronal experience with trying to help people set them up are the following AppTools and SAB (Spotify Artistry Bot) as their performance is so bad compared to the other bots I mentioned.
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What makes the performance of one bot worse than another? Aren't they ultimately doing the same tasks such as opening an account, then a playlist, then playing the songs in that playlist + other parameters like play time etc.? How are some more effective than others?
 
SpeedProxies said:
Please don't ever mention apptools as the out-performing most bots.
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Their performance is so shit I have never seen a bot performing so bad, its better than BAS bots but still, and all I hear from customers is saying streams not counting and shit, guess what after they switch bot they magically all count.

"mentioned above are all BAS tools"
Also are you high or what? As SpotiChart, beastfy.me, ArtisticWay these 3 bots are not BAS bots at all lmao, Spotichart is written in C#, beastfy in golang, artisticway I think it was in C# and they all just use selenium + chrome web driver so no BAS.

"Outlawz is the worst, support is horrible." I have to agree with that one from some customer's experience but the bot works nice, nowhere near the shit quality of apptools bots, also if you wanna talk about "support" then lets talk about their support not knowing what their own bot settings are meant to do, I had customers struggling to put in proxies into the bot (since their bot uses a different format, which is normal for different bots) and they asked staff what format ip:port:user:pass or user:pass@ip:port and they didnt even know or they gave him some other answer.
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So is there a bot you would recommend the most? I'm specifically looking for one that works well with Apple Music
 
streaminghot said:
How is streaming count performance related? As far as im aware Outlawz Free Gens does not count neither does spoticharts. So your point is invalid, and yes i tried them both. Apptools even has a desktop emulation app bot, which no one as far as im aware as such thing. Anyways you are just a proxy seller, so it's understandable you have no clue on performance stuff. But also your proxies i tried them aswell and they are bad for most platforms.

In case you don't know apptools got documentation online, simple to use and videos, so just don't act like you are the man who knows everything, as your proxies surely do not keep up with your inched chest. In outlawzs you have to be a witch to understand. SpotiChart is the only good thing you mentioned there but still your comments don't add up. Don't reply biased to people when you are clueless how things work.

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OP if you requires some proxies that are of quality go for best alternatives, the above proxies are mostly banned in pandora, deezer, etc... even for spotify account creation.
He's not also qualified to give you advise on BOT's since he does not BOT, neither seems to know the market, just what his clueless customers tell him, which at the end perhaps are less than 50.
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Have you still been using apptools? If so, how's it going and are you using it for Apple Music?
 
SpeedProxies said:
Please don't ever mention apptools as the out-performing most bots.
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Their performance is so shit I have never seen a bot performing so bad, its better than BAS bots but still, and all I hear from customers is saying streams not counting and shit, guess what after they switch bot they magically all count.

"mentioned above are all BAS tools"
Also are you high or what? As SpotiChart, beastfy.me, ArtisticWay these 3 bots are not BAS bots at all lmao, Spotichart is written in C#, beastfy in golang, artisticway I think it was in C# and they all just use selenium + chrome web driver so no BAS.

"Outlawz is the worst, support is horrible." I have to agree with that one from some customer's experience but the bot works nice, nowhere near the shit quality of apptools bots, also if you wanna talk about "support" then lets talk about their support not knowing what their own bot settings are meant to do, I had customers struggling to put in proxies into the bot (since their bot uses a different format, which is normal for different bots) and they asked staff what format ip:port:user:pass or user:pass@ip:port and they didnt even know or they gave him some other answer.
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Please i need more light on which of the best to go for as i am also a musician and won't make no sense for my song to be removed or my page been banned. First I was reading on Aiostream then i saw Beastfy and now lot of them. Please which of these bot will you recommend i use
 
thanks @SpeedProxies for the extensive info, since march I'm having some problems and I'm not sure how to fix it,
Outlawz seems the way to go but I still have some questions on which is the best way to do it, cause some distros are causing me trouble so i guess I'm doing something wrong
 
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