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Which Seo tools are too risky?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by myaple, Aug 15, 2010.

  1. myaple

    myaple Newbie

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    I've been on the seo business for more than 10 years, working for clients. I cannot afford the risk of getting a site banned for obvious reasons, for that reason I've never used automated tools to get backlinks (e.g xrumer), which tools would you recommend me to use, without the risk of being banned?

    Thx!
     
  2. Georgebg

    Georgebg Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Well you could try senuke AND Xrumer. Just make 20-50 backlinks a day each day for a while and you won't face problems then slowly increase to like 30-60 links etc.
    Most importantly you have to keep up with the linking , persistance is the key.
     
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    hey you have been in seo for 10years and you you don't know what tools to use????..
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    Yeah I agree. If you have been in SEO for 10 years then this question should have never been asked.

    Any and all automation programs are safe and not safe. It all depends on how you use them.

    Xrumer can build 1 backlink a day, and you will be fine. Xrumer can also drop thousands of links per day and it could hurt your site.

    The answer to your question is how smart are you when it comes to using these tools.
     
  6. myaple

    myaple Newbie

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    Hi,

    thank you for your answers. I 've always believed in doing things manually. Due to the fact that I work in a well established agency, our seo has to be almost completely white. I need total control of what i'm doing (i know you can use xrumer to get just 1 link, but i cannot assume the risk , that anyone accuses my client to spam)
     
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    cooooookies Senior Member

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    Then why are you here, Darth? Do you need someone to convince you to convert to the dark side of the might? :)

    I do not know any BH tools which works whitehat and can only recommend that mentioned above: you could indirectly promote your site with buffer sites. If you e.g. use XRumer and do not blindly spam, you might be completely on the safe side.



     
  8. timothywcrane

    timothywcrane Power Member

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    If you want to make sure that the "look" of above board white hat SEO is achieved, more than the automation of your links, personal attention should be paid to where they are placed. Nothing like a good old viagra ad sandwich on a spam blog to make the Big G take notice of your site (in a bad way). If you find the BLD of your competitors, and set up the backlinks + 50% to appear over a year or so, then you should be OK. If you work for an SEO firm, and are not freelancing, then you should have the overhead to cover the time to maturity ratio. If you have access to PHP programmers (even on the side of your job), then I would hit them up for a custom solution. Make sure to find a moonlighting client to fund this. And then your set. Remember to tell the programmer to focus on quality, not speed and quantity. You can always set a cron job for timliness. Be sure to bring a few IPs
     
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    JigSawMan Newbie

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    Wow, tough crowd. I have been playing with this stuff for a couple of years and am always finding new items and ideas. Maybe he already knows of some stuff but would like to see what surfaces with his question.
     
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    I never thought that xrumer was particularly that dangerous. Even if you drop 1,000 profile links today they dont all get cached by google that day,that week or even that month.

    I got 1800 profile links earlier in the week and thus far yahoo site explorer is showing 2 of them.. not 200! 2 ya know like between 1 and 3?

    I could see if you banged in 50,000 posts in a day on xrumer...
     
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    aznxmtg Regular Member

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    I had a 25k verified profile blast 2 weeks ago, some of it showed up but not even close to 200 showing up. It is good thing though :)
     
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    Google says in its webmaster videos that they do not penalize you for bad backlinks as they can not ascertain if it is one of your competitors doing the backlinking and trying to get you knocked off serps. Anyway an independent confirmation of this would be nice.
     
  13. Longover

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    Yeah, I agree with some of the above posts. 90% of the automated tools themselves will not get you banned. Only you using them excessively or improperly will get you penalized.

    If you've been in SEO for that long, chances are that you have some things that are easily automated and there should be a tool for the task out there.
     
  14. robertodelgato

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    How about you tell us what you normally use, and we'll tell you if we think they're 'risky' or not. :D
     
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    nice info, thanks
     
  16. GreyWolf

    GreyWolf Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    I just replied to a similar question in another thread. It totally applies to this thread to so I'll just paste my same reply here too. :cool:

    Here's something that you need to consider before using any automation tools. All they are designed to do is let you scale up your efforts.

    If you know what your doing to build good backlinks then automated tools will just make some of the tasks you do easier. But if you don't know what your doing and aren't able to build good backlinks on your own, then the automation tools will just make that easier as well.

    In other words, if you don't know what your doing then tools like Scrapebox and Xrummer will just be scaling up your unsuccessful tactics. If you take the time to learn how to build backlinks manually and learn what really works best, then you can use automation tools to scale up a successful strategy.

    Tools like Scrapebox, Xrummer and others aren't a magic bullet that will gaurantee success. Just like any other tool, they won't be nearly as useful until you already know how to do the tasks they're designed to help with.

    If you already have 10 years in SEO, and have been doing all your backlinking manually then you probably know more than enough to use automation tools without causing any damage to your sites. Just use them to reproduce pretty much what your already doing and then after you know they are producing what you want, then start scaling up your efforts.
     
  17. filmy

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    I agree... I drop way more than a thousand a day and as long as the posts look natural, the most that happens is that the webmaster deletes the post. I've actually had more spam complaints from ScrapeBox and WordPress blogs than I've ever had from THOUSANDS of XRumer posts on forums.

    filmy