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which language should you learn?

Discussion in 'General Programming Chat' started by Rushdie, Nov 18, 2011.

  1. Rushdie

    Rushdie BANNED BANNED

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    a truly great article which i stumbled upon just today.

    enjoy

    http://web.mac.com/jimbokun/iWeb/Site/Blog/AB35C167-7755-4113-938C-968F65256D76.html?_
     
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  2. jazzc

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    Awesome :D
     
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    yeah thats pretty funny. another interesting thing was the AI winter.

    the article is also a little outdated. ruby has made much improvements and javascript has node.js
     
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    Code:
    java.lang.Object
      org.apache.xmlrpc.server.RequestProcessorFactoryFactory.RequestSpecificProcessorFactoryFactory
     
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    I was actually asking myself this question. I know HTML only and was wondering what else would I need to learn so as to be self sufficient and not run for help each time I have simple problem
     
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    That's awesome. :p
    They forgot PHP though. But, I have seen Haskell and it is pretty interesting.
     
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    PHP is gonna lose its glamour but not in the near future since so many web sites are now using it, i'd go with javascript always because its the dominant web developing language with a big libary like jquery,ajax... that are being used and used more .
     
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    @c0ntenth|ef

    Many PHP killers have died already all these years, so no worries. The only way PHP is going to lose its dominance is if the core dev team manages to start a full fledged war between themselves.
     
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    You realize javascript is client side and php is server side right? Two entirely different situations.
     
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    Well, PHP (with all its flaws) is widely used although there are alternatives ASP, C#, VB, Java, ColdFusion, Ruby, Python ...
    JavaScript don't have real alternatives (except VBScript), so you are forced to use it. No real competition usually turns product into a shit which is perfect word to describe JavaScript (also this can be applied on Flash too).
     
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    i know this and i meant their use in general web development.
    Weedsmoker yes Flash is shit thats why jquery is taking over most of the tasks Flash used to do, and you mean to tell me that Ajax (javascript libary )is shit ? yet its used for some of the most popular web applications today such as google maps,gmail,yahoo...
     
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    Flash can do things much easier than what javascript can do. The replacement for flash is not javascript but rather HTML5 and its numerous features (ex: canvas and video).

    AJAX is not a library. AJAX is just a term for using several technologies to modify the page without reloading. At its core all it is is javascript sending and receiving data. jQuery, prototype, YUI etc. just make it easier and faster to create ajax enabled sites.
     
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  13. jazzc

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    ruby and python haven't
     
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    it is based mostly on javascript to put all the coding methods used together :rolleyes: where does the 'J' in ajax come from if you know javascript then you'll be able to use ajax easily too.
     
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    This is like saying that humans are based on water. Sure, they are 70% water, but does it mean anything useful to you other than a vague statement?

    Claiming that Ajax is a "javascript library" is totally wrong by any technical standards. Read the wikipedia entry to get a start.
     
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    read what i typed first then you can see about if ajax is a javascript library or what role it plays in ajax, amd would humans exist without water?
    from that web page:
    "The term Ajax has come to represent a broad group of web technologies that can be used to implement a web application that communicates with a server in the background, without interfering with the current state of the page. In the article that coined the term Ajax,[1] Jesse James Garrett explained that the following technologies are incorporated:
    HTML (or XHTML) and CSS for presentation
    The Document Object Model (DOM) for dynamic display of and interaction with data
    XML for the interchange of data, and XSLT for its manipulation
    The XMLHttpRequest object for asynchronous communication
    JavaScript to bring these technologies together"
     
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    Nothing at that page and what you mentioned claims (unlike you) that Ajax is a "javascript library". You need to learn what a library is in programming languages.

    If you somehow think that I believe or claim that Javascript is somehow inferior to anything, you are wrong. What I am saying is that calling Ajax a library is technically 100% wrong.
     
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    Yea very strange that they left out PHP. I myself am taking a C# class at my local community college over the next few months.

    It seems to offer pretty good versatility and will be useful for what I need it for, and hopefully much more.