I?ve had a great desire to learn web programming/application programming but I?ve put it off now for years because I?m always the ?idea guy? and just hire some programmers to pump out the ideas. I have a pretty good level of knowledge, like I?m sure most experienced marketers do, but I?d really like to get more hands on and really learn the hard core programming. My question is, with a basic knowledge of web programming where should I start/go to really learn? My best guess would be to pick up a few of those ?Learn programming in 21 lessons? books but I wanted to get some advice from some experienced programmers on how they started and what they would recommend.. Also, if anyone has recommendations on books they've read that would be helpful!